Featured Are members of the Church left behind in the Rapture?

I reckon you will have to wait and see what God will do at the rapture.

Incidentally, I do believe those believers that are abiding in Him that do not believe saved believers can be left behind, but are unsaved, will be like the elder son looking at the prodigal son with disdain because of the father receiving him with celebration when the prodigal son had thrown away his inheritance for wild living.

So if you are abiding in Him as His disciple, then like the elder son, you will find out that those professing believers were saved even though they were left behind for not abiding in Him.

 

You keep leaving out the ones that Paul mentioned in that chapter about saved believers walking after uncleanness that do not know how to possess their vessel in honor as those that despise God.

You really see them as being among the " all " that will be changed?

 

Ah... well. If that is yours and the readers' standard, I can see why believers are not coming into the forum.

 

Would you receive a professing believer living in sin thus not possessing his vessel in honor & thus again, despising you, into your house to eat with? Then neither will God at the rapture, brother.

 

Just that if readers are going to see that as a possible guide how they maybe judged by their grammar as indicating they do not know theology or know what they are talking about by other readers, and since knowing that typos are quite common as well as poor grammar, they probably prefer to just be on the outside looking in.

Paul trembled when he spoke.

1 Corinthians 2:2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified. 3 And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling. 4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:

One could say that he had no confidence in what he was saying, and so it really does place the emphasis on God causing the increase on whatever the forum member types that be of Him.

I can type typos and use poor grammar, but something may get posted that stands out to the reader because the Lord is making that truth stand out to be received by the reader, regardless of how I come across.

Thanks. It would be nice if I can avoid mistakes in grammar, but I am human. I am hoping that God is ministering since it is on Him to cause the increase in spite of my obvious shortcomings.

 

It is not works based if you are trusting Jesus as your Good Shepherd to help you discern and to depart from iniquity. My confidence is in Him to finish running that race as the crowns I receive are really His crowning achievements in me. The crowns are to His glory, not mine.

 

And if a saved believer does not grow in Christ by learning of Him and His words in how to abide in Him as His disciples, then what?

How can he believe in Him to help him follow Him if all he sees Him is, is just as His Saviour and not as His Good Shepherd too?

How can he believe in all His promises to help him walk through this valley of death if he doesn't know them, but just the simplicity of the gospel?

Imagine a babe in Christ unprepared as he walks in this world where the devil is roaming like a lion, seeking whom he may devour.

You are the one that sees the three of the four grounds of soil as unsaved whereas the only one good soil as the one saved.

You would not see them as believers at all, but false professing ones.

What do you think is happening to believers when they get left behind in this life? They die.

Was not the church at Thyatira warned to repent or else be cast into the bed of the great tribulation to be killed? Or do you believe they were not really a church and God was wasting His breath warning them to repent when they were not saved in the first place?

Did not Christ mention there would be lost ones from the fold in Matthew 18th chapter? Did He not warn believers on how to treat these little ones; the babes in Christ? Did He not say "Moreover... " in regards to the lost when addressing a brother caught in a trespass?

Why are there lost ones? Because not all saved believers will receive the benefit of His disciples caring about them to learn of Jesus Christ and all His promises to us as our Good Shepherd to even apply their faith in Him for that when their sights on just trying to survive in this world.


Philippians 1:6

King James Version (KJV)

6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:


1 Peter 1

King James Version (KJV)

1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,

2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,

5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

Jesus is still keeping those saints left behind as He is our faithful Creator keeping their souls in well doing while they suffer the fire coming on the earth and the subsequent great tribulation.

And the little ones that were not abiding in Him & His words in according to that lack of knowledge, you would deem them as not saved at all when they are left behind? Not every saved believer will bear fruit as His disciple to be found abiding in Him to be received by the Bridegroom.

Not every saved believer trust Him as their Good Shepherd when their eyes are on the world for living this life, but He is keeping them still even when they are left behind for not being ready to go.

 

Not all believers will grow and abide, but He will always abide, even in former believers that are among those left behind. That is His faithfulness.

I view it as saved believers living that reconciled relationship through Jesus Christ by trusting Him as their Good Shepherd to help them to follow Him while living this life on earth in this fallible, but Spirit filled flesh. This is why it is written that the just shall live by faith. I rest in Him as my Good Shepherd to help me to follow Him.

Not all believers apply that faith in how to follow Him. Some look to keeping their commitment to follow Christ as the means and the power to follow Him which is not of faith.

Not all believers will have Jesus first in their lives but living in this world takes priority for which many will not bear fruit because of that.

Not all believers will grow in the word to be strengthen against the lies in the world and in the church that the word should offend them and turn them away from Him.

Trusting Him as my Good Shepherd to help me to follow Him and not just trusting Him as my Savior that I am saved is not work base salvation. That is called living by faith.

That is how He abides in us. That does not say how we abide in Him. John 15 th chapter testifies to how we abide in Him and that is in His words, leaning on Him to help us to abide as we can do nothing without Him.

Israel is not a part of Him to even try to abide in Him. Was Israel abiding in Him as part of the vine in the first place? No. Then saved believers that are part of the vine that are not abiding in His words, will be cut off.

His disciples are chosen; as in chosen to attend the Marriage Supper as many that are called are saved, but few are chosen to attend.

 

This is going t happen at the rapture for those not ready and found abiding in Him.

Isaiah 54:5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the Lord of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called. 6 For the Lord hath called thee as a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, and a wife of youth, when thou wast refused, saith thy God. 7 For a small moment have I forsaken thee; but with great mercies will I gather thee. 8 In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for a moment; but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith the Lord thy Redeemer.