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Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Internet Theologian, Feb 29, 2016.

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  1. revmwc

    revmwc Well-Known Member

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    Considering it was listed first by Tcassidy and given an amen by Rolfe thought there was some middle ground but it appears that what is said depends on who says it!
     
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    The problem is that the vast majority who are fooled don't recognize the false doctrine when it's fed to them.

    When I was a new Christian, I got caught up in the Word of Faith movement. Because men like Kenneth Copeland, the Happy Hunters, Larry Lea, etc, cloaked the false inside the true, I was easily fooled.

    It would have done you no good to warn me about the danger of Copeland's teaching about the insufficiency of Christ's atonement (commonly known as the "Born Again Jesus" theory) because I was a new Christian and had not been discipled.


    Jesus told us to beware of both false doctrines and wolves. I see no problem with naming the wolves.
     
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  3. Internet Theologian

    Internet Theologian Well-Known Member

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    Nope. It doesn't depend upon who said it, it depends on its validity. I also stated something similar to TCassidy that I stated to you as well. You presented your list as 'As long as we agree on these:..." I wanted to show that your list is well short of a proven test.
     
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  4. revmwc

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    That's where we need to depend on the Holy Spirit to guide us to the truth. Where we must prove all things ! We prove it by digging deep, seeking out what others have said looking at all opinions, searching the original language interpretations and letting the Spirit guide to the truth. Many fail to do all this, many fail to be filled with the Spirit when they seek out the truth.
     
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  5. revmwc

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    It is a starting point are their others you can be sure of that! But basic soteriology must be met before we can agree on anything after that. Eternal security must be seen as truth too.
     
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    I probably should have added "in what he wrote" but I thought the context of inscripturation made that obvious. I was obviously wrong. :)
     
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  7. Internet Theologian

    Internet Theologian Well-Known Member

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    Yes, good starting point.
     
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    No, no, you should've simply typed in ex-cathedra mode. :p
     
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    Wow a thread on name calling and now it's gone to that
     
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    I am not certain the RCC believes in "The verbal inspiration of the Scriptures" - at least not how I intended. I probably should have, once again, avoided verbal shorthand and included the understood "and full authority of" the scriptures. As the RCC reserves for itself the right and ability to modify and interpret the scriptures via the Authoritative Magisterium my view of scripture and that of the RCC is miles apart. :)
     
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    Provided, of course, that our basic soteriology is stated simply as "all those who have faith in Christ as Lord and Savior are eternally saved" I will agree. :)

    I agree. Salvation by grace alone through faith alone plus nothing. The great Reformata doctrines. :)
     
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  12. Internet Theologian

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    Yeah, I was listening to James White debate Robert Sungenis and talk about it and he alluded to the verbal inspiration of Scriptures belief held in RC.
     
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    The ex-cathedra comment? Sorry. It was for levity. :)
     
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    Well, I thought I was!!! :D :D
     
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    That's how I understood it. The smirking funny face sticking out his tongue was a dead give-away! :p :D
     
    #35 TCassidy, Mar 1, 2016
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    I have no idea what it even meant, so wasn't sure how it was meant!
     
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    It has to do with his Pay Pull authority! :)
     
    #37 Internet Theologian, Mar 1, 2016
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    Yeah, I should've used this one instead: Alien
     
    #38 Internet Theologian, Mar 1, 2016
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    Whatever that means, see that is how naming names can be misconstrued when folks don't have the same terminology.
     
    #39 revmwc, Mar 1, 2016
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    Here you go, lol.
     
    #40 Internet Theologian, Mar 1, 2016
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