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Well my question to you is why would a Christian want to be part of a sinless perfect church filled with perfect people?

If you only love those who love you what good is that? A doctor is for sick people.

Jesus Christ himself is of the Jewish faith, we Catholics consider ourselves the full and complete Jews through Christ.

Despite calling them children of the Devil and indeed Anti-Christ in so far as to kill him later Jesus says of pharisees:
Matthew 23
1Then Jesus spoke to the crowds and to His disciples, 2saying: “The scribes and the Pharisees have seated themselves in the chair of Moses; 3therefore all that they tell you, do and observe, but do not do according to their deeds; for they say things and do not do them.

In other words Jesus recognizes the authority the Pharisees held. He didn't say well they are false religion I'm starting my own, don't do what they say follow me. You won't find anywhere in scripture explaining the authority of the chair of Moses it is a tradition one that Christ adhered to.

Jesus never pointed at another's faith and said they are in the wrong spot. Don't you think that's rather a important detail?

We teach the parable of the Good Samaritan. For you to be consistent you would have to teach the Damned Samaritan.

Here we have Paul, STUDYING pagan religions, reconciling Pagan scripture to point to God. And he found one that fits. He states that they worshipped his God before he himself proclaims.
He says that Their PAGAN scripture is correct, that they are the children of God.


Acts 17
22So Paul stood in the midst of the Areopagus and said, “Men of Athens, I observe that you are very religious in all respects. 23“For while I was passing through and examining the objects of your worship, I also found an altar with this inscription, ‘TO AN UNKNOWN GOD.’ Therefore what you worship in ignorance, this I proclaim to you. 24“The God who made the world and all things in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands; 25nor is He served by human hands, as though He needed anything, since He Himself gives to all people life and breath and all things; 26and He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation, 27that they would seek God, if perhaps they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us; 28for in Him we live and move and exist, as even some of your own poets have said, ‘For we also are His children.’ 29“Being then the children of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and thought of man. 30“Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all people everywhere should repent, 31because He has fixed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness through a Man whom He has appointed, having furnished proof to all men by raising Him from the dead.”



"fundamental and biblical Christian doctrines such as no one will be saved apart from receiving Jesus Christ as Lord God and the Only Saviour of mankind."

The only place I found that formula in the bible is when Satan tempted Jesus to kneel and worship him and then he will give him the kingdom of heaven.

Jesus never said worship me and I will reward you, Satan did.
Why would anyone want to take Satan's method and put a Jesus name tag on it?

I have to believe I am totally misrepresenting your position, I know you love Jesus. Jesus himself says if you don't receive his commands you cannot receive him.

I want to hear what Jesus Christ says:

John 3
3Jesus answered and said to him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
4Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? He cannot enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born, can he?” 5Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

16“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.

36“He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”


The word believes here has obedience in it. That's why the opposite is "not obey".

Only believers obey, Only those who obey believe.


Luke 10
25And a lawyer stood up and put Him to the test, saying, “Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?” 26And He said to him, “What is written in the Law? How does it read to you?” 27And he answered, “YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND; AND YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.” 28And He said to him, “You have answered correctly; DO THIS AND YOU WILL LIVE.”




Its very important to point out what is the Catholic view on one's own life eternal or not.
I'm saying this because there are people who value SALVATION their LIFE over everything else.

So if God commands feed your dog, well.....there no salvation in it.....ill just pass.

We don't do this. We will feed the dog......Even on PENALTY rather then reward.

Matthew 16
24Then Jesus said to His disciples, “If anyone wishes to come after Me, he must deny himself, and take up his cross and follow Me. 25“For whoever wishes to save his life will lose it; but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it. 26“For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul? 27“For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and WILL THEN REPAY EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS.


We do good works. FOR FREE. If God were to offer me salvation for doing good works I would refuse it. He gets that for free. I feel taking any reward for it , would be like spitting on him.


John 14

15“If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.

That's all he had to say. There is no heaven or salvation greater. We cannot be bought.

I can hop in hell with greater joy then anyone in heaven as long as I love Jesus Christ.


When your eyes are on Christ it doesn't matter if he hands me something sweet or poison, cause I know it comes from my friend someone I love.


John 14
21“He who has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me; and he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and will disclose Myself to him.”




Steaver,

You're a good person, good heart. Don't need to be catholic. I hope you become best of what you are.

A lot of these differences are a bunch of knick-knacks over Faith, Obedience, and Love. If you can nail one perfectly it has to include the other two.


A good Catholic aims to be a Saint. A position that transcends even the highest hierarchy of titles. They might not be the council but they can be the Jedi and God's Loose Cannon. There are nuns who've made popes tremble in fear.

If God allows for a Saint's superiors to all be devils and demons its because God trusts him that much, Likewise the Saint trusts God so much he will stay where God put him come hell or high water, against all odds, even often against just as many Angels as Demons. A Catholic's biggest problem is often a Catholic. Himself if he's wise.

 

Its simple. You are asking Catholics:

"why a Christian would want to be a part of a "church" in which it's highest teachers are clueless to the most very basic, fundamental and biblical Christian doctrines such as no one will be saved apart from receiving Jesus Christ as Lord God and the Only Saviour of mankind."

If I have the proper view its my duty to correct my superiors. I gave you an example where Jesus' time the superiors of the church are in error. Jesus does not ditch them.

2nd portion of my answer is aimed at your assertion "no one will be saved apart from receiving Jesus Christ as Lord God and the Only Saviour of mankind"

Luke 6
46“Why do you call Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say?

Some folks don't care to do what Jesus says.

Some do it for salvation's sake not for the motives Jesus Christ teaches.

Matthew 7
22“Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’


Show me in the bible where Jesus says KNEEL before me, Worship me, call me lord and savior and I will save you.


I can think of about 10 verses off the bat where he tells you to get on the ball. You can't provide one verse.


If you believe the bible then you would believe what Jesus Christ says to do. Some folks claim to believe in SOLA SCRIPTURA, I wish they did.


Jesus shows up to teach us to drive a car.

Jesus announces believe in me and have faith in me and you will drive a car.

We are both good and agree.

So one of us asks, what do I have to do to drive a car?

Jesus explains well you have to turn your key here ok, put it in drive, step on the gas there to make it go.

I would agree with Jesus here. But some folks here would swear that's not how to drive the only way is to believe Jesus and faith in him. That's crazy.

I can literally write out the command of Christ word for word, what he says to do. And some folks will choke first before repeating what he said to do. Namely love God, love neighbor, to follow his commandments.

 

We can agree here, but the opposite of believing is NOT OBEYING. Believing on him means more then acknowledging his existence, he was telling folks looking right at him! How are they going to deny he exists?


1 Corinthians 11
1Be imitators of me, just as I also am of Christ.


John 13
15“For I gave you an example that you also should do as I did to you.


1 Peter 2
21For you have been called for this purpose, since Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example for you to follow in His steps,


Jesus Christ is my example. You didn't see his minimum requirement being to grovel and worship another man to be saved. Jesus Christ Loved God and Loved his neighbor.


John 14
15“If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.


That's all he had to say, didn't even have to bribe me with eternal life. I love God for free. You can keep salvation.

 

That's nothing. We can turn it up a notch. You can give your whole life.

1 Corinthians 13
3And if I give all my possessions to feed the poor, and if I surrender my body to be burned, but do not have love, it profits me nothing.

In everything you say, That tiny tiny ingredient called love is what I'm looking for. Love God and love your neighbor.


1 Timothy 1

5But the goal of our instruction is love from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith.


The goal ain't just believing nor just faith.


The minute you mention love, you have me beat.

If you don't mention Love or explain how its implied in belief or faith, it is useless trash.

2If I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.

 

Luke 12

47“And that slave who knew his master’s will and did not get ready or act in accord with his will, will receive many lashes, 48but the one who did not know it, and committed deeds worthy of a flogging, will receive but few. From everyone who has been given much, much will be required; and to whom they entrusted much, of him they will ask all the more.


Luke 9
46An argument started among them as to which of them might be the greatest. 47But Jesus, knowing what they were thinking in their heart, took a child and stood him by His side, 48and said to them, “Whoever receives this child in My name receives Me, and whoever receives Me receives Him who sent Me; for the one who is least among all of you, this is the one who is great.”
49John answered and said, “Master, we saw someone casting out demons in Your name; and we tried to prevent him because he does not follow along with us.” 50But Jesus said to him, “Do not hinder him; for he who is not against you is for you.”
51When the days were approaching for His ascension, He was determined to go to Jerusalem; 52and He sent messengers on ahead of Him, and they went and entered a village of the Samaritans to make arrangements for Him. 53But they did not receive Him, because He was traveling toward Jerusalem. 54When His disciples James and John saw this, they said, “Lord, do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them?” 55But He turned and rebuked them, [and said, “You do not know what kind of spirit you are of; 56for the Son of Man did not come to destroy men’s lives, but to save them.”] And they went on to another village.



Jesus Christ taught the GOOD SAMARITAN. He did not teach the damned Samaritan. If the Samaritan was proper faith, he would just be the good Christian.


If Jesus Christ were to tell that story again today, it would be the GOOD ATHIEST or the GOOD MUSLIM.
Samaritans happened to be the most hated at the time, they defiled the holy of holies.


Philippians 2

3Do nothing from selfishness or empty conceit, but with humility of mind regard one another as more important than yourselves; 4do not merely look out for your own personal interests, but also for the interests of others. 5Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, 6who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped,

Jesus didn't think his being God was paramount.

John 14

11“Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me; otherwise believe because of the works themselves.

He could have said believe me OTHERWISE you are Toast. But that's a far cry from the verse above.


You can teach a Jew and a Mormon to love God and love their neighbor.

As far as why they don't believe Jesus is God, I rather tack that on as my fault for not setting a better example and we pray for them.

If I say to myself I truly have God on my side and YOU DON'T, then I have NO EXCUSE for setting a poor example.

 

We do good works because we value and love the command of God.

We don't weigh a command of God, ask if there is anything in for us, like salvation. We don't say well Lord I know you command this of me.....but since it won't give salvation I'm just not going to do it.

We are not whores for salvation. We do the commands for free.

You're in a pickle because your talking to someone who values the command of God above his own life eternal or not.


Jesus Christ made up the Good Samaritan, Precisely against the type of person who thinks their status, religion and beliefs alone makes them righteous.

The Pharisee would have agreed with you the Samaritan is damned. That's what was so shocking about the story.


Look at the ending.

36“Which of these three do you think proved to be a neighbor to the man who fell into the robbers’ hands?” 37And he said, “The one who showed mercy toward him.” Then Jesus said to him, “Go and do the same.”

To be consistent you would have to tell Jesus "NO". It was the guy in the SAME FAITH as me because he accepted Jesus Christ as personal lord and savior. The Samaritan is not my neighbor at all! LOOK you even said it yourself he is damned. But those two other guys who passed you up, hold your belief they are not damned.


What if the robbers accept Jesus as lord and savior and they stabbed you.

And some Muslim picked YOU UP. bandages you, takes you to a hospital and pays your bill?

You would be spitting in his face the whole ride there? Letting him know he is damned for eternity.


If you can tell the difference between Kindness and God then you still have a lot to learn about both.