Scientific Creationism?

Probably one of the most inane posts to grace this board.

 

I disagree. I for one hold to a world view that is shaped (in terms of this debate) by both the Bible and by science in nearly equal measure with the Bible taking first place. It is crucial, however, to distinguish between the Bible and the interpretation of it. The Bible, being God’s revelation to man, is a constant; but the interpretation of the Bible is constantly changing—being dependent upon such things language, culture, one’s level of education, one’s environment, etc.

There are three words in this brief paragraph that are being used incorrectly:

Fact. Evolutionary biology teaches that the evolution of specific kinds of plants and animals is a fact.

Hypothesis. Evolutionary biology does NOT teach that the theory of evolution is a Hypothesis.

Theory. Evolutionary biologists and other scientists that are knowledgeable in that field use the word “theory” very differently than most Christians use the word. That is, evolutionary biologists and other scientists that are knowledgeable in that field use the word “theory” when speaking of the concept that all of the plants and animals alive today evolved from a common ancestor. They do NOT use the word “theory” when speaking of the evolution of specific kinds of plants and animals. Moreover, even when speaking of the concept that all of the plants and animals alive today evolved from a common ancestor, they do not use the word “theory” in the sense, “just a theory,” but in the sense of “a theory that is acknowledged to be a virtual fact.”

 

This and very many of your posts are so maliciously mean and cruel that it staggers my imagination upon seeing that a human being could treat another human being is such an extremely malevolent manner for their own personal gratification.

 

Fact: Everyday for the past hundreds of millions of years, countless species of plants and animals have, through the process of evolution, adapted to changes in their environment. This is a fundament fact of the science of evolutionary biology—and what uneducated people think about it is irrelevant.

Have you ever so much as met a scientist? Have you completed so much as one college course in any of the life sciences?

 

I am sorry if my questions offended you. I certainly had no such intention.

 

Evolution and adaptation have always been, and always will be, “separate things.” Through the process of evolution, plants and animals adapt to changes in their environment.

I believe from both my personal experience and the experience of others that having an excellent university and seminary education is invaluable for pastors and teachers of the Scriptures. However, I believe that a person lacking both can comment , with value, on science and on the Scriptures on a Christian message board provided that he or she does not stray from what he or she has actually learned from other sources. However, evolutionary biology involves a multitude of life and earth sciences and is, therefore, an extremely complex subject that requires years of study to get a good enough understanding of it to make one qualified to express an opinion on it either from the pulpit or on a Christian message board.

 

Fact: That is a [edited]. Prove it.
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The denial of reality makes it no less real.

 

No reality involved in your imaginary [edited] old ages and same state past required to get them. Get over it.

 

I have in two of my gardens about 65 decorative rocks of various sizes that are 95 million years old. I collected them some years ago from along the sea shore in San Diego, California. The age of the rocks, how they were formed, and the geological process that took them to San Diego is very well documented.

I also have in these and other gardens around my home hundreds of other rocks of various kinds, most of which are very much older then 95 million years old, but their precise age, how they were formed, and the geological processes that brought these rocks to what are now my gardens has not yet been documented with any high degree of certainty. However, God knows how old they are, how He formed them, and the geological processes that He used to bring them to what are now my gardens.

God was not sitting around up until several thousand years ago playing tiddlywinks with an imaginary friend. 4.54 billion years ago (a very well proven date), God created the earth, and He has spent 4.54 billion years making it the earth that we have to live on and enjoy today. Learning a little bit here and there about God’s timeline in creating the earth and the processes that He used is enjoyable to me, and I feel sorry for those people who are not able to enjoy these things simply because they choose to believe in one of the old interpretations of Genesis that robs those who believe in them of that experience—and countless other experiences as one enjoys the handiwork of God.

 

No you don't. You have blind faith and imagination. No proof,

You wouldn't know when that was by your [edited] foolish so called dating.

Total [edited] and absolutely unproven and unprovable.

Says you..not Him.

Long as you throw out Moses and Genesis and the New testament and prophets I guess. No thanks.

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You all need to get on the Historical Creationism train. It's awesome!!!

 

Yes, I'm also very conservative. I grew up in a very conservative home where we were a family interested in science. There is nothing about Old Earth Creationism that is not compatible with the Word of God. It is Young Earth Creationists who are making a laughing stock of Christianity by those who do have an education in the sciences and are giving ammunition to non-believers to attack Christianity and run it out of schools because of the anti-scientific views.

 

Just stop. non-believers who are evolutionists laugh at Christians who do. Further, both have the same lens in which you view the world. You interpret the infallible and eternal word of God through the lens through the lens of science. The rest of us interpret science through the lens of scripture.

 

and you know these rocks are millions of years old how exactly?

I mean that all sounds very impressive, but please tell me how you know the ages of these rocks?

And please don't say they are documented to be those ages, I would like to know what your dating method is and for you to explain how the dating method works. Please and thank you friend.

 

You're a laughing stock to me. You appeal to the intolerance of your camp to defend your beliefs.