Featured Megachurch pastor rejects his father’s bigotry: Jesus would want you to bake a gay wedding cake

Oh!Oh!Oh! Mr. GotchaYou just acknowledged an act. And contrary to your act, Scripture says but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.

 

That would be YOUR opinion. There is nowhere in Scripture that God says simple attraction is sinful. I'm attracted to other men of God because I'm drawn to the Jesus Christ in them. Is that corrupt?

Little kids are usually attracted to the same sex because they have more interests in common with the same sex than they do with the opposite sex.

Does that mean that the little girl who thinks boys are icky and all her friends are little girls who like to play with Barbies has corrupt attractions?

Nope. She's attracted to something in them that they have in common.

Shoot, you're attracted to Donald Trump because yall share similar philosophies

We weren't talking about sexuality. We were talking about same sex ATTRACTION.

You can deny they exist all you want. The concepts of certain acts exist in Scripture, and if someone just happened to add a term to them today, it doesn't make the act any less real.

So...

You can call them whatever you want, but you don't get to create sin.

Lust is a sin. If you identify as a heterosexual or a homosexual and you lust, the sin is lusting. It is NOT you identifying as having same sex or opposite sex attraction.

 

Not who that was for ann, but it wasn't my quote on which you commented.

 

IMO, that just makes no sense.

Take this scenario:If I came in and said I want to order a cake that looks like



but didn't say it was a gay "wedding" cake, that would be okay, and the service would be provided? But the minute I say GAY "wedding" cake, suddenly you can't do it?

Why is it right that you, as a Christian, treat me and my desire for a cake differently than you treat the other sinners who come in to purchase a cake?

 

Now THAT is the type of thing I foresaw. Jesus never did anything to just be doing it. He didn't go to the tax collector's house just to eat. He went to love on them and witness of Himself.

Exactly.

I'll even come to your wedding because I love you. But if you asked me to participate in it, I'd have to lovingly decline.

This is a sword that Christians should not be trying to die on.

Should I not rent a tux or limo or chairs and tables to a gay couple for their "wedding" if I'm in business to rent those things? That's ludicrous. A display of love can go a long way in softening people's hearts to be receptive of the Gospel.

 

In accordance with Scripture,Jesus would have been kind to even the pedophile. For in the same way that people have stigmatized gay people to be the worst of the worst, pedophiles are pegged the same way. It doesn't lessen the heinousness of the sin committed. But Jesus seemed to make it a point to redeem those that people thought were beyond redemption in part to show us that His love does cover a multitude of sin. That doesn't mean that there aren't consequences. But I don't believe that Jesus would be any less loving to someone who had served time for child molestation than he would be for the tax collector.

 

Exactly. What would I look like , if I were a travel agent who just happened to be a Christian, and a gay couple came into my business to buy tickets for a plane and vacation package?

Shoot, y'all have a seat. I'll be right with you with our top destination packages and blackout dates. That doesn't mean I agree with a particular sin. I just sold some tickets. I didn't perform a " gay" wedding because Biblically there is no such thing.

 

Nope.I make it a point not to cuss either. So if you ask me to place something obscene,crude or distasteful on the cake, I'll let you know, that I can make the cake for you, but I don't put stuff like that on the cakes. I would then give you the names of some other bakeries who may be willing to put what you want on the cake after I make it. I'm an Ephesians 5:4 type guy.

But just ain't anything obscene,crude or distasteful about making a cake for a gay "wedding" unless somebody is asking me to, again, stick something obscene, crude or distasteful on the cake.

I simply would not want to be known as a businessman who did stuff like that. I think the average person would respect that.

 

I answered your question. But there's a difference between baking a cake and baking a cake and sticking obscene, crude, or distasteful stuff on the cake.

That's not part of my business model.Biggrin

 

I might give them a discount.

 

There isn't. I'm putting eggs and sugar and flour, baking powder, butter, and some vanilla and some milk in the gay "wedding" cake just as I will with the straight wedding cake.

Shoot, they come in lil plastic bags. I'll stick them on top for them. Or if they want, I'll hand them to them and say place whatever on top of your cake that you want. I might even throw in an extra bag or two and some extra frosting just in case they put the first two on wrong. They can stick a miniature Ferris Wheel on there for all I care. As long as it's not obscene, crude, or distasteful, I'll put it on there for them if it were my business.

If you as a cake baker don't want to put those lil figures on there, then don't. I'd still make the cake for them though. I just don't see a reason to make an issue about the lil figures if I'm gonna bake the cake.

I don't have a problem with the lil figures. If that's what they want, go for it. They're gonna take them off anyhow.

Do you in general find people's names and rainbows to be crude and obscene? Don't confuse bigotry with crude and obscene.

What sin symbol? The two little men? And since when is pretending to get married a sin?

 

You're right there's no need going over it again. You think what you want and create all the new sins you like. I'll choose to treat people with the love of Christ while attempting to obey the commands and principles that are already there.