Featured About Hebrews' warning: Do not draw back to perdition

First thing that must be understood with t book of Hebrews is the reason for its writing. Also understand as the King James delegation came together to bring forth an English translation Bible their task was to determine which books to accept and which ones not to accept. First the author was to be identified and since Hebrews has no author identified it was set aside for a while. Calvin states this “They suspected that it favored Novatus in denying pardon to the fallen; but that this was a groundless opinion will be shown by various passages.” So Calvin sees the thinking that OSAS was challenged says it was groundless. Yet the author remains unknown even today, many have opinions but not one is proven, so why was it determined that this book had a place in the Holy Scripture that was put together by the council? They found scriptural merit in the book thus we have this beautiful book.

Now who was it addressed to? Those Hebrews (Jews) who had made professions of Christ. The thing the author was trying to prove was that Christ office was sure. He was an High Priest after the order of Melchizedek. The Aaronic priesthood had ended.

So what ended with that priesthood, Sacrifices? Such as the atonement sacrifice. So when we see Chapter 10 verse 26 “For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins.”

Now many of these “Hebrews” were falling back to practicing the sacrificial offerings. So that if they sinned willfully they were offering an atonement sacrifice in the temple. They were drawn back to their old practices. Notice verse 3 of chapter 1 Christ “purged our sins” He finished the need for a sacrifice. So that when they willfully sinned there was no need or “there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins.” They didn’t need to go to the Temple and offer a sacrifice for those sins. They had already been purged. What di they need to do instead, Confess their sins to Christ.

Notice verse 19

19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,

Believers can enter into the Holiest by the blood of Christ, He has become our sacrifice and the need to offer a sacrifice for sin has been abolished. That is the atonement sacrifice required by Jewish law, “there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins” it was npo longer required. This is not saying one can lose their salvation it isn’t saying Christ Sacrifice for them was of no effect, it is saying you as Hebrews (Jews) no longer are required as Christian (believers in Christ) to offer an atonement sacrifice, that is no longer valid. The warnings were to the Hebrews who had been going back to Judaism and the sacrificial system.

 

True. Once He gives us eternal life ...we have it.

 

So you do not agree that when Christ gives us eternal life we really have it. OK.

 

Foolish question.

 

It isn't biblical to question Salvation and be a little self righteous judge. No.

Must be you have no idea what you are talking about.

Look if we have eternal life given to us by Jesus do you really think we could lose it? The game of pointing fingers and accusing brethren of never having been saved if they sin the wrong way in your eyes is a fool's game.

 

Jesus dying on the cross is evidence! God judges us, so we all are a work in progress not yet perfect. Paul and Peter and etc probably could honestly tell when someone was not really sincere and saved. Modern mostly apostate hypocritical churches can't. They should zip it.

 

Free gift for the asking.

 

Jesus saves. Obviously.

 

Jesus saves. Obviously.

 

Both.

 

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Why do you ask, what are you trying to lead up to here, out with it man.

 

He demands our believing on the Son! Ephesians 2:8 &9 "For by Grace are you saved through Faith and not of ourselves it (salvation) is the gift of God, lest any man should boast."
We are to follow God's commandments and one of those commands for salvation is to believe. But let's look again at Eph. 2:8, for by Grace ye saved through Faith. Now which word is the verb? "Saved" thus it sets the subject or the syntax of the verse, so that when one gets to the prepositional phrase "it is the gift," the Pronoun "it" relates back to the verb which is "saved or salvation." So therefore Salvation is the gift of God. How do we obtain that gift, by Grace, but what means through Faith, so we must believe in order to be saved. Grace brings salvation and God requires everyone to Believe on the Son in order to be saved. So that salvation makes us reborn, that we become Spiritually born, why must we be spiritually born, because we are spiritually dead in trespasses and sins and devoid of spiritual things.
And we see the command in John 3:
2 "he same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?"
Notice verse 3 "except a man be born again" How does one gain the second birth, that is salvation and the second birth is also regeneration,

Now one more thing in John 3:
14 "And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
Christ was lifted up on the cross so that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, How do they not perish? They gain eternal life and what life is eternal? Spiritual life, and the spiritual life is brought about by belief. Then we go all the way to Revelation 20:
14 "And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."
Notice failure to believe causes one to suffer the second death. You think that is stretch, let's see this takes us right back to John 3:
36 "He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him."
Those who believe on the Son have everlasting Life, that would mean their names must be written in the book of life seen in Revelation 20 and what about those who believe not, they shall not see life, wow right back to Revelation 20 death, that is those who died in their trespasses and sin don't see life they suffer the second death, that is eternally separated from God why Jesus said because they don't believe.

Now that begs the question, if God requires one to believe and scripture is very clear He does then why would He regenerate some before they are reborn by believing and not others when Jesus clearly states John 12:32, He would Draw ελκυσω, Elkyo, now I have heard that this means to drag as a net, but according to George Ricker Berry's Greek Lexicon, this word only sometimes involves force, often not. In its use here it means to draw over, to persuade. Thus Jesus is saying He would persuade men to come to Him. How, faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of GOD.
Than in Revelation 22:17 there is this,
"And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely."
The Spirits message to all is come, the churches message to all is come, the invitation is to all to come and take the water of life freely, it is the gift of God, not of works and it is obeying God's command to believe and the Holy Spirits' persuasion to come.

 

OK so far you've given me snark and vagueness and have avoided answering the question altogether. So are you saying there are no Scriptures that show evidences of true conversion and false?

 

You have not one biblical answer. None.