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Featured To My Friends in the Democratic Party

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Benjamin, May 27, 2016.

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    Yes Trump knew how to play the masses for fools. He is not going to destroy the establishment. He is the Establishment. All he is doing is destroying the Republican party. If these people thought 2 parties were bad (and it is) having only 1 party is much much worse. Which is why I hope that a true conservative party will rise from the ash heap of the GOP. I actually can respect the people that view Trump as a sweet meteor of destruction to quote Bill Whittle, since the Republican party needs to die. It has gone from Republican to RINO, to Dem light to straight up democrat with their nominees. The people that think that Trump is the coming of Reagan and is going to do all the things he said that they agree with, while ignoring all the opposite things he also said our fooling themselves. I for one will be doing my part to help a new party rise by voting for a true constitutional conservative, and will be holding back "I told you so" (although probably failing on that goal) for the next 4 years. We will have a dem/Dem/Socialist in the oval office, there is nothing I can do to stop it, but I could help in the creation of a new party.
     
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    Take note my Democratic friends. Follow the example of the #NEVERTRUMP-eteers and hold your ground for Bernie. Your job is to consider no other truth greater than the wisdom to stand firmly rooted in the #NEVERHILLARY movement against any attempt of the erosion of your candidate. Tell the world “No!, that your commitment to your movement will NOT EVER move!"

    [​IMG] #NEVERHILLARY
     
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    Thank you. I'm so glad that you are seeing the errors of the 2 party system and are pushing for a 4 way split. I hope you are doing this on all platforms. I'm sure all your Democratic friends would appreciate seeing this on Facebook. I know I for one am glad that a Trump supporters is realizing that everyone's vote is their own, and it is not owned by any party. That gives me a tiny glamor of hope for the electorate in this country.

    #NEVERTRUMP
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    You betcha! Nah, I would never fall for the silly logic that there are only 2 viable candidates in this election. [​IMG] Or the reasoning that if I, and many others, abandon the Republican Party that such could help give advantage to the opposition, - kind of nonsense! [​IMG] I have no doubt that making a statement now for a 3rd party is far more important than ANY of the consequences of taking MY vote away from my party and therefore I strongly encourage ALL my Democratic friends to use the same strategy as you do in your #NEVERTRUMP movement for their #NEVERHILLARY movement in the upcoming election. [​IMG]

    [​IMG] #NEVERHILLARY
     
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    If the republican party is being "destroyed", Trump did not do it. They did it to themselves when they quit listening to the voters, republicans and independents alike. The republican partty alone has never been large enough to win any election. They left the door open for him or someone like him.

    He is not like Reagan. He's not even close to being a conservative, but he is all that is standing in the way of Hillary Clinton, the nation killer.
     
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    Agreed the GOP did it to themselves and the only way they will learn is when True Conservatives stop giving their vote to thr GOP when they put RINO up for election. I am done being a pawn for thr GOP to ignore except during election time. They wanted Trump, they chose him and now they will have to deal with him without my vote. That's what is so ironic about all this. On one hand your saying that the GOP did this to themselves (which I agree since he was the establishment 3rd choice) but then you are expecting me to continue to vote for the GOP for the sake of party unity. No I'm done being taken advantage of by the GOPe. Trump does not want my vote, I don't want to give him my vote so in that one issue we agree.

    And the problem with the argument of its him or Hillary is that to me they are one in the same. One just has a lot more political capital to spend and that is what scares me.
    And on the other hand I live in AZ, no one is under any illusions that it's a swing State. Trump won the AZ primary (much to my husband and I disappointment) so it is no question in my mind that he will win AZ in Nov. So there is no way I could have a hand in electing Hillary.
    But I do want to send a message to the GOPe by having a Write in candidate eat a little of their margins.
    I will never willingly vote for a totalitarian statest democrat (even with an R by his name)
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    New York State: need 15,000 (valid) signatures with a minimum of 100 signatures in at least 14 separate Congressional districts. (not sure when the deadline is)

    Here is the info for other States/Commonwealths
     
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    Just make sure who you vote for is on the state list of write in candidates. Why not vote for the Libertarian candidate. The LP is a viable third party with a track record.
     
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    Because I'm not a Libertarian. There are things I really like about the Libertarian party and there are things that I really don't like.(they are pro-choice for one thing, and while I get why given their philosophy, I don't vote for pro-choice candidates, one of the many reasons I'm #NEVERTRUMP)And I recognize that while it might be a better fit then the GOP for conservative it's still not a good fit. Someone who posted a link a week or so back to the Constitutional Conservative(I think that was it) party and my husband and I are debating that. But the thing I like about Cruz is his proven track record of defending the Constitution. The candidate for the CC party I really don't know much about except for what they wrote. Not much of a track record to look at.

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    Not even close. You've just decided to do what you can to see that she is elected. I sincerely hope you fail. This country would never recover from a Hillary Clinton presidency. The 2nd Amendment wil be destroyed. aand the first amendment will be in jeopardy. Both ar under continuous attack as we speak.
    You have no proof, None whatsoever, that Trump will do what she will to damage the very fabric of our constitution. Your unguided anger will only help make it happen.
     
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    With zero chance of election.
     
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    I never said the LP had a chance. But, it is on all 50 states ballots.
     
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    I guess if one wants to throw their vote away and/or assist Hillary in being elected, that would be as good a place as any to do it.
     
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    I'm not angry, I'm resigned. There is nothing I can do to prevent a democrat/Democrat/Socialist from being elected. It will be one of those three. And if this country recovers from the damage Trump, Clinton or Sanders does to it is in God's hands. They are nothing more than what we deserve. I pray for Mercy but it looks like we are getting Judgement.
    If you want to blame someone place it on the 12 million people that voted for Trump in the primary. A vote for him in the Primary was a vote for Clinton in the general.
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    Again you have no proof that Trump will make every effort to destroy the Constitution, as Hillary will. If you do , produce it.

    You've just thrown in the towel and surrendered without a fight. Pity.

    Surrendering without a fight is not part of my makeup and making important decisions with nothing to base them on is a close second. You're doing both.
     
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    He said as much on the debate stage. He said he would have our soldiers commit war crimes.
    He has said he wants to charge press with libel if they write against him.
    Just in the last few days he wanted to raise 10 million dollars for abortion funding.
    He has attacked the thr 4th amendment in the pass by taking a old women's property from her
    He has no idea about the 10th amendment since he brags that he will rule by the pen like Obama.

    He is no better than Clinton who he supports by giving money too.

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    Sounds to me like you're just ranting.
    Produce the quotes or other documentary evidence.

    BTW, the 10th amendment has been gone for years.
     
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    War crimes:


    1st amendment
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...o_take_on_new_york_times_washington_post.html:

    ""One of the things I'm going to do if I win... I'm going to open up our libel laws so when they write purposely negative and horrible and false articles, we can sue them and win lots of money,"
    It starts at the 2 min mark in the video

    Support for "Women's Health Issues"
    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/05/donald-trump-debate-bernie-sanders-charity-womens-health
    Right at the begnning of the video he said he would debate Sanders if someone would pony up 10-15million dollars for "Women's Health Issues"

    Trump attacking 4th amdendment rights via eminent domain
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...cb287e-5660-11e5-b8c9-944725fcd3b9_story.html

    And supporting eminent domain during the GOP debates.
    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/431005/trump-eminent-domain

    Trump on Executive Order because who needs that pesky 10th amendment
    https://grabien.com/file.php?id=71845
     
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    Roflmao Really? That's it? suing for libel has been around for centuries. That will destroy the 1ST amendment? Get real.

    Government entities have been stealing private properties for decades. It's an artform now. they do it for developers. Nothing new here. trump would be very familiar with it, but it was the government stealing the land for him to increase their tax income. Government greed a business man would take advantage of.

    The 10th amendment hasn't existed since the civil war. Lincoln killed it.

    Obama has proved Congress doesn't have the courage to stop a rogue president from issuing illegal executive orders. The responsibility for that rests squarely on the Republicans in power today. Cowards all. From now on every president will issue whatever orders he or she pleases...until Congress stops them. The question is do you want the known liar and criminal, Hillary,issuing them when she has made it known she will destroy the 2nd amendment or Trump who has put out a list of sterling potential appointments to the Supreme Court?

    The key to stopping all these activities is the Supreme court and you've decided Hillary should be the one to make those appointments.

    Overall, just totally laughable.
    What I reall beieve has happened is you've bought into all the conspiracy theories. Trump's a democrat plant. Right?

    I think you should vote for Hillary directly. Why dance around it and make pitiful excuses?
     
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    So in other words your OK with the Constitution being trampled on as long as it's your guy trampling on it. Thanks for clearing get that up. I appreciate your honesty on this issue :)

    My husband wonders why you asked for evidence if all you are going to do is shrug it off.

    I have not decided Hillary is the one to stop anything. Voting for Cruz is the antithesis of voting for Clinton.

    I live in a solid Red State. Which means that Trump is getting those 11 electoral votes, which means I can not be in any way shape or for responsible for her election. But I can definitely hold the 12 million people who voted for Trump in the primary responsible.
    A vote for Trump in the primary is a vote for Clinton in the general.

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