The NIV Is In Good Company

[TCassidy]

"Where did I point out that sodomy was great and wonderful?"

I never said you did. I said that was the assertion of the gay agenda. So, unless you are admitting you are part of the gay agenda I obviously was not referring to you.

"Where did I say I hated the KJV?"

I never said you hate the KJV. I said those who do use such tactics to imply a guilt by association.

And, claiming that King James used flowery court language is used to disguise and cover up his homosexuality.

Bearing false witness is a sin. Terms of affection like "sweetheart" and "darling" were normal terms used between men in the seventeenth century in England.

What heterosexual male would describe a male friend as a "wife"?

Gay websites are probably not a good source of unbiased opinion.

 

[HankD]

It's just not the Christmas season until I hear the account of the first Christmas in the King James Bible of Luke chapter 2.

HankD

 

[TCassidy]

It's just not the Christmas season until I hear the account of the first Christmas in the King James Bible of Luke chapter 2.

HankD

As I was raised on the KJV I too love to hear the old renderings of the bible stories we learned at an early age. It brings back a lot of great memories.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

Not to mention, Linus Van Pelt's recitation of the passage.

As I was raised on the KJV I too love to hear the old renderings of the bible stories we learned at an early age. It brings back a lot of great memories.

 

[TCassidy]

Not to mention, Linus Van Pelt's recitation of the passage.

Charles Schulz was quite a guy.

 

[InTheLight]

Gay websites are probably not a good source of unbiased opinion.

King James called George Villiers, the Duke of Buckingham, his "wife" and he his husband in one of his letters. I suppose this is just "flowery language of the day?"

My only sweet and dear child,
Notwithstanding of your desiring me not to write yesterday, yet had I written in the evening if, at my coming out of the park, such a drowsiness had not come upon me as I was forced to set and sleep in my chair half an hour. And yet I cannot content myself without sending you this present, praying God that I may have a joyful and comfortable meeting with you and that we may make at this Christmas a new marriage ever to be kept hereafter; for, God so love me, as I desire only to live in this world for your sake, and that I had rather live banished in any part of the earth with you than live a sorrowful widow's life without you. And so God bless you, my sweet child and wife, and grant that ye may ever be a comfort to your dear dad and husband.
James R.

 

[TCassidy]

King James called George Villiers, the Duke of Buckingham, his "wife" and he his husband in one of his letters. I suppose this is just "flowery language of the day?"

My only sweet and dear child,
Notwithstanding of your desiring me not to write yesterday, yet had I written in the evening if, at my coming out of the park, such a drowsiness had not come upon me as I was forced to set and sleep in my chair half an hour. And yet I cannot content myself without sending you this present, praying God that I may have a joyful and comfortable meeting with you and that we may make at this Christmas a new marriage ever to be kept hereafter; for, God so love me, as I desire only to live in this world for your sake, and that I had rather live banished in any part of the earth with you than live a sorrowful widow's life without you. And so God bless you, my sweet child and wife, and grant that ye may ever be a comfort to your dear dad and husband.
James R.

Again, gay websites are probably not a good source. And, by the way, why are you hanging out on gay websites anyway?

 

[HankD]

As I was raised on the KJV I too love to hear the old renderings of the bible stories we learned at an early age. It brings back a lot of great memories.

My first encounter with Bible verse memorization was with the Navigators and other groups all of which used the KJV.

To this day whenever I hear an old familiar verse quoted from other than the KJV it just doesn't sound right.

KJV Psalm 119:11 Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.

NIV Psalm 119:11 I have hidden your word in my heart that I might not sin against you.

Huh?

Nothing against the NIV - Well yeah, is has no nostalgia nuance.

HankD

 

[Rippon]

Even if he was all of those things, did he translate any portion of the KJV to the church though?

No, King James did no translation work --he just laid down some ground rules for the revisers.

 

[Rippon]

More nonsense. Failing to understand the flowery court language common in England over 400 years ago, taking it completely out of context

Your unsound reasoning here is quite unusual for you. Dismissing that which is of historical record is itself absurd.

Your "flowery language" gimmick has got to go down as one of the silliest escape routes anyone has taken.

What is your rationale for the clearly condemnatory language that Oglander, Osborne and Peyton use against the conduct of King James?

the false charges against James I are used by ignorant haters of the KJV to avoid discussing the actual merits of the KJV.

What is untrue is your denial of the obvious. The deviant behavior of King James has nothing to do with the King James translation. It's a fact that does not to be explained because it is quite evident and is a separate issue.

 

[InTheLight]

Again, gay websites are probably not a good source. And, by the way, why are you hanging out on gay websites anyway?

It's not from a gay website. It's from a 17th century letter sent by King James to George Villiers that is stored in the British National Museum.

 

[TCassidy]

stored in the British National Museum.

And where did you see it or a facsimile of it?

 

[TCassidy]

Dismissing that which is of historical record is itself absurd.

Except it is not.

 

[InTheLight]

And where did you see it or a facsimile of it?

page 138 of the book I linked to earlier.



https://books.google.com/books?id=2...1#v=onepage&q=king james love letters&f=false

 

[HankD]

He might have overly imbibed before writing said letter.


HankD

 

[InTheLight]

He might have overly imbibed before writing said letter.


HankD

There's several of these types of letters to at least three other men. Also there was a secret passageway between King James's bedroom and George Villiers bedroom. The two would frequently kiss in public. Etc.

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[TCassidy]

page 138 of the book I linked to earlier.

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https://books.google.com/books?id=2GnTMZAFEm4C&lpg=PP1&dq=king james love letters&pg=PP1#v=onepage&q=king james love letters&f=false

Still posting stuff written by sodomites?

 

[InTheLight]

Still posting stuff written by sodomites?

Sure, letters written by King James himself.

 

[HankD]

There's several of these types of letters to at least three other men. Also there was a secret passageway between King James's bedroom and George Villiers bedroom. The two would frequently kiss in public. Etc.

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If it was a secret passageway then we can't know what went on in there.
"kiss in public" - They were both drunk!

HankD

 

[TCassidy]

Sure, letters written by King James himself.

Let's see them.