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Even when we do not understand we need to obey. Often understanding follows obedience.
What is the Moral Justification of God's Asking Abraham to Sacrifice Isaac?
I disagree with the idea that Isaac is a type of Christ.
Isaac is representative of us. We deserve condemnation, but the Father provides a substitute (his Son) to die on our behalf.
I disagree with the idea that Isaac is a type of Christ.
Isaac is representative of us.
Why can't Isaac by a type of both the believer "in Christ" according to promise and of Christ also?
Is not "Isaac" the "promised seed" to Abraham in his old age? Isn't that "seed" ultimately representative of Christ?
Gal. 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
Gal. 4:28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
Why can't Isaac by a type of both the believer "in Christ" according to promise and of Christ also?
You think the numerous similarities between the two are just a coincidence?
They illustrate the punishment that we deserve that Christ took on. Isaac was spared at the last moment because of God's provision.
Jesus recapitulated Isaac's journey to the altar, but instead of being spared, he gave his life for us.
If anything, the ram is more of a type of Christ than Isaac, IMO.
The emphasis from the scriptural standpoint is not that Isaac was spared, he was received back from the dead 'in type' of resurrection:
19 accounting that God is able to raise up, even from the dead; from whence he did also in a figure receive him back. Heb 11
Again the emphasis from the scriptural standpoint is on the resurrection, not 'being spared':
7 Who in the days of his flesh, having offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and having been heard for his godly fear, Heb 5
Christ was saved from death, God raised Him from the dead.
I believe Paul's comments are suggesting the opposite---that Christ, not Isaac, not the nation of Israel, is ultimately the "seed."
Perhaps one could interpret the type in "double duty" terms, but I just personally don't think that's the clearest route. That doesn't mean that someone else can't have a strong argument in the other direction. And, as always, I can very easily be wrong!
Nevertheless, Paul's argument in Galatians seems to hinge more on Isaac representing the promise and the prototypical "redeemed" figure that ultimately represents all of those redeemed by Christ, the promised seed, in opposition to Ishmael, who was the son of the slave Hagar, and the prototypical figure of those who remain in bondage (to sin).
Indeed, the very gospel preached to Abraham by God is "in thee" shall all nations be blessed and that is not fulfilled by Isaac, although it cannot be fulfilled apart from Isaac either as Christ literally came through the lineage of Isaac. So the promised seed necessarily must include both Isaac as the immediate promise but Christ as the ultimate promise as they both are inseparable from that promise.
Ok, everyone. Upon reflection, I will withdraw my previous comments and accept that Isaac is a type of Christ.
I really appreciate your good attitude brother.
Check out this index:
Gleanings in Genesis By Arthur W. Pink
One of the most profound books I've ever read. Pink was a 'master of types'.
No one can declare something without knowledge of it. Your open theism is shining as bright as the noon day sun.No scripture says God knows the beginning from the end, but it does say God declares the end from the beginning.![]()
Bwaaahaahahaha!! Please stop!! You're killing me!! Oh my sides are hurting so bad from all the laughing!! Kathy Griffin is on line 1...As I said Calvinists who believe God is not the author of sin believe God did not predestine our each and every sin. Therefore they are Open Theists to a degree.
Did Adam or God sin? It was Adam, therefore Adam, and all his posterity stand before God guilty of freely and willingly commiting sins. Did God plant the tree of knowledge in the Garden? Yes. So there was a desire for sin in some way from God, but none of us are privy to the why in God's mind. Yet, when Adam sinned, he freely did what God decreed. How is that too hard to comprehend? Just like the crucifixion of Christ. Men freely did what God decreed.As I said Calvinists who believe God is not the author of sin believe God did not predestine our each and every sin. Therefore they are Open Theists to a degree.