Featured The Myth of "faith being credited for Righteousness"

Sinners are spiritual dead, so in order to have any saving faith in us, has to be planted there by God Himself first!

He gives us new hearts/faith, then we turn and believe unto Him to be saved!

 

Lets number the biblical truths, Yeshua1,
1) Men of flesh are spiritually dead but are able to understand spiritual milk - 1 Corinthians 3:1.
2) We are saved by grace through faith, therefore our faith provides our access to saving grace. Romans 5:2
3) We are chosen through faith in the truth, then transferred into Christ where are made into new creations, 2 Thessalonians 2:13.

Just read the verses, folks, they explode the myths of the nameless doctrine.

 

Dead men, men in their natural flesh, cannot and do not by themselves receive the truths of God!
Again, God is the One who gives to his own saving grace, its all part of the Romans 8 Salvation package!
Does God choose us to get saved by him knowing that we will receive jesus, or by Him electing us unto doing that event?

 

Yeshua1, men of flesh can understand spiritual milk. I provided the scriptural support for this truth. Just read 1 Cor. 3:1. Our faith provides access to God's grace. Just read Romans 5:2. God chooses us for salvation through faith in the truth. Just read 2 Thessalonians 2:13.
Romans 8 does not support any of nameless doctrine's bogus assertions. Just read the OP in the Dr. White Video thread.

 

God declares that ONLY those who have the Holy Spirit can even understand the things of God, so why disagree with Him on this?

 

To be justified by faith means one is declared righteous. Abraham was justified by faith. Yet he was not imputed the righteousness of Jesus Christ?

You're teaching(s) are scaaaaaary...

 

From www.gotquestions.com


Question: "What is justification? What does it mean to be justified?"

Answer: Simply put, to justify is to declare righteous, to make one right with God. Justification is God’s declaring those who receive Christ to be righteous, based on Christ’s righteousness being imputed to the accounts of those who receive Christ (2 Corinthians 5:21). Though justification as a principle is found throughout Scripture, the main passage describing justification in relation to believers is Romans 3:21-26: “But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the prophets testify. This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood. He did this to demonstrate his justice, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished—he did it to demonstrate his justice at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus.”

We are justified, declared righteous, at the moment of our salvation. Justification does not make us righteous, but rather pronounces us righteous. Our righteousness comes from placing our faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ. His sacrifice covers our sin, allowing God to see us as perfect and unblemished. Because as believers we are in Christ, God sees Christ's own righteousness when He looks at us. This meets God's demands for perfection; thus, He declares us righteous—He justifies us.

Romans 5:18-19 sums it up well: “Consequently, just as the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men, so also the result of one act of righteousness was justification that brings life for all men. For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.” It is because of justification that the peace of God can rule in our lives. It is because of justification that believers can have assurance of salvation. It is the fact of justification that enables God to begin the process of sanctification—the process by which God makes us in reality what we already are positionally. “Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ” (Romans 5:1).

Recommended Resource: Making Sense of Salvation by Wayne Grudem


The reason why Abraham was declared righteous was because of the certainty of the redemptive work of the cross of Christ. We are already glorified...past tense...because of the certainty of the redemptive work of the cross.

 

God declares men of flesh (unregenerate) can understand spiritual milk.

 

2 Corinthians 5:21 says "we might become the righteousness of God in Him." Being declared righteous is no where to be found.

The righteousness comes from God to all who believe (to those whose faith God credits as righteousness.

We are not justified the moment we believe. We are justified when God credits our faith as righteousness and transfers us spiritually into Christ. The we become the righteousness of God in Him, after we have undergone the circumcision of Christ.

Again, God does not declare us righteous, He makes us righteous by the washing of regeneration.

 

The only way we are righteous is because Christ's righteousness has been imputed unto us. God now sees us through Christ. Abraham was righteous in the sight of God via justification, which is declared righteous before God.

 

Notice that the nameless doctrine folks make assertions but do not support them with scripture. That is because scripture does not support the assertions. Bogus in, bogus out.

 

That's a huge fib my friend.

There are several posts here that used Scripture to dismantle your errant theology.

Have some decency and respect for the people who have read this thread and have seen the Scripturally based responses that have thoroughly refuted your error. There is no need to add a fib to your arsenal.

 

But Abraham didn't know God as the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. God did not reveal Himself as such. That's why I said that though God's promise to Abraham was in actuality the Gospel of Christ, it was the Gospel of Christ shrouded in shadow and mystery. Abraham's knowledge of God was not what ours is.

But he believed God. Not IN God, though He did. He believed God's word.

 

Not sure if this was brought up, but Romans 4:5-6 states plainly, that the righteousness Abraham obtained was imputed.

But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. EVEN AS David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works.
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Read it and weep, Van.

 

hi Aaron, here is how the NASB renders Romans 4:6, "just as David also speaks of the blessing on the man to whom God credits righteousness apart from works:" Impute is not the correct word meaning, as indicated by the vast majorly of English translations. Translation shopping, KJV here, NIV there, ESV elsewhere is bogus. Abraham's faith was credited to Abraham as righteousness. This should not be beyond the grasp of even the nameless doctrine folks. Abraham was not made righteous, or declared righteous, he had not yet been washed with the blood of Christ. That is why Abraham had to wait to receive the promise, and did not enter heaven when he died.

One by one the mythological pillars of the nameless doctrine fall. Faith precedes regeneration, men of flesh can grasp spiritual milk, God elects for salvation conditionally through faith in the truth, men entering heaven were blocked by false teachers, and Christ laid down His life as a ransom for all. None of the TULI are biblical doctrines. they are unbiblical doctrines, bogus in bogus out. Read it and weep indeed.

 

Once Abraham left this earth and went to be with the Father, I'm sure he knew as he was known. But not 4000 years ago while he walked the earth.

They're conclusions based on the names by which God has revealed Himself in the Sciptures.

Whatever. You're looking at them through the light and instruction you've received, which is a better light, under a better dispensation mediated by a better Mediator, revealed by a better Prophet. The Scriptures clearly contrast the inferiority and comparative darkness of the revelations in the OT with the superiority of the NT. No greater prophet was born of woman than John the Baptist, but the least in the Kingdom is greater than he.

But you say the revelation was equal.

K.

Not going to argue any further.

 

Seems many are assuming that YHWH in Genesis 15 is The Father.

 

God choose Abram out to be the Father of the Faithful, and he gave unto him a new heart, and then Abraham turned towards the God that was guiding him to that Promised land...

God works/moves/THEN men can freely reespond to Him, not the way you state it!