What do you think of NCT/PD theolgy?

[Martin Marprelate]

It seems that 'love...one another' covers a whole lot of ground.

Well exactly so. If we love God how can we
Have other gods before Him?
Make and/or worship idols?
Not delight the day that He has set aside for us and honour it?
Dishonour our parents?
If we love our neighbour as ourselves how can we
Kill him or even hate him?
Commit adultery with his wife?
Steal from him?
Lie to him or about him?
Covet the things that he has?

It all amounts to the same thing. The 'Golden Rule' is just an epitome of the Ten Commandments.

 

[kyredneck]

It all amounts to the same thing. The 'Golden Rule' is just an epitome of the Ten Commandments.

I have Rick Warren's ' The Purpose Driven Life'. Something he stated in it I agree with. He says the essence of the Christian religion is agape. - thinking of others. I've always appreciated the KJV translation of the word - charity.

 

[Yeshua1]

Just that one?
Can we take God's name in vain?
Can we have other God's?
Can we steal from those we love?

Do you think that if we submit and obey the Holy Spirit thatHe will not be able to keep us from knowingly sinning then?

And will He not mature the image of Christ now in us, so that we will keep on becoming more like Jesus in words and deeds, thus dulfing the Law of Christ?i

 

[Yeshua1]

The summary found in romans 13.....is the ten commandments.

Actually Jesus boiled those all down to loving God, and to love others, doing unto them as you would them do to you!

One led and empowered by the Spirit will reflect those in their lives!

 

[Iconoclast]

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Do you think that if we submit and obey the Holy Spirit thatHe will not be able to keep us from knowingly sinning then?

And will He not mature the image of Christ now in us, so that we will keep on becoming more like Jesus in words and deeds, thus dulfing the Law of Christ?i

You are not answering the questions....
What is dulfing?

 

[Iconoclast]

Actually Jesus boiled those all down to loving God, and to love others, doing unto them as you would them do to you!

One led and empowered by the Spirit will reflect those in their lives!

What is boiled down? Could it be....
.the two tables of the law?

 

[Yeshua1]

What is boiled down? Could it be....
.the two tables of the law?

Dies not the Holy Spirit Himself place that Law in us, and He empowers us to be able to live as we ought due to us now being under the new Covenant?

 

[Iconoclast]

Dies not the Holy Spirit Himself place that Law in us, and He empowers us to be able to live as we ought due to us now being under the new Covenant?

What law .....is the question?
I and others say it is the ten commandments. ....all law comes from those ten....All sin is a violation of those Ten also.

 

[John of Japan]

file:///C:/Users/Tonyd85/OneDrive/Documents/CovenantTheologyAndDispensationalism.pdf

Rather than hold to the relevance and perpetuity of the Moral Law, Dispensationalism, which is antinomian by nature and necessity, views the Law as a legal document given only to Israel, and confined to the “Dispensation of Law” [from Sinai to the Cross

Absolutely not. No kind of dispensational theology is antinomian by nature. (And your link does not work.)

I'm a dispensationalist, and I believe Jesus strengthened the Decalogue in the NT except for the Sabbath, making it internal instead of external.

Methinks your method of debunking dispensationalism consists of finding minor details on which theologians of the discipline disagree, and attempting to make them essential to dispensationalism when they are not.

 

[Iconoclast]

Absolutely not. No kind of dispensational theology is antinomian by nature. (And your link does not work.)

I'm a dispensationalist, and I believe Jesus strengthened the Decalogue in the NT except for the Sabbath, making it internal instead of external.

Methinks your method of debunking dispensationalism consists of finding minor details on which theologians of the discipline disagree, and attempting to make them essential to dispensationalism when they are not.

John......
If the sabbath was made for man and is beneficial, why then would that. Command now be no longer beneficial?
Not the mosaic sabbath, but the Lords day.

 

[John of Japan]

John......
If the sabbath was made for man and is beneficial, why then would that. Command now be no longer beneficial?
Not the mosaic sabbath, but the Lords day.

You'll have to ask the Lord Jesus on that one, since He did not teach his disciples to keep the Sabbath--unless you are a Seventh Day Baptist....

To say much more than that would derail the thread.

 

[Aaron]

Romans 2:14-15 does not say the moral law is written on anyone's heart. What it says is that "THE WORK" of the law is written on the heart - meaning the conscience provides the same function as the law provides. It approves and disapproves of WHATEVER STANDARD of right and wrong that the conscience has been trained to accept by family, culture or religion.

The only heart where the law of God has been written upon is the heart of believers by the regenerating power of the Holy Spirit - 2 Cor. 3:3 as that is the specific administration of the "new" covenant.

The passage draws a distinction between the heart and the conscience.

The point, though, is that men by nature know the law, not having to be taught it, and there is no excuse.

 

[The Biblicist]

The passage draws a distinction between the heart and the conscience.

The point, though, is that men by nature know the law, not having to be taught it, and there is no excuse.

No, the point is that God can justly condemn all men of sin, because all men have knowingly sinned against a standard of right and wrong. In Gentiles the law of God is not written on the heart, and they do not know God's Mosaic Law but their conscience, that is when they come of age to discern right and wrong that conscience which has been trained by family, cultural and/or religious values is that standard or law which they knowingly violate.

Hence, the Gentiles conscience becomes a law to themselves and by that law God judges them as sin is transgression of law.

 

[evangelist6589]

Who teaches this?
Who are you speaking about?
Who teaches we are under Mosaic law?
Which progressive dispensationalists teach this?
What is the law of Christ?

You know google is at your hand Icon. Or do you not know how to use it?

 

[evangelist6589]

forget that. I aint buying that.......error is error.

How many errors do you make on a daily basis?

 

[evangelist6589]

Spot on BB, and btw, Yeshua1, can you support that progressive dispensationalism teaches no rapture? Or did you just make that up?

1) Yes all mankind is under the New Covenant.
2) Yes, born anew Gentiles are children of the promise, see Galatians 3.

Do you know how to read?

 

[Iconoclast]

You know google is at your hand Icon. Or do you not know how to use it?

I was asking Y1 to answer....not google....thanks for asking though.

 

[Van]

Do you know how to read?

Yet another fault finding post, devoid of content. This is all these guys offer, smoke and smear.

Christians worship the truth. They observe all He commanded. They study the word and strive to live by it.

1) Yes all mankind is under the New Covenant.
2) Yes, born anew Gentiles are children of the promise, see Galatians 3.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

How many errors do you make on a daily basis?

Talking to you is one of my big ones.

 

[Martin Marprelate]

Secondly, the 'work of the law' is the work that the law does. Which law is that? Why, 'the law written on their hearts.' The work of the law is to convict unbelievers of sin so that they may come to Christ by faith (Galatians 3:24).

Now, you are trying to make the law equal to the "work of the Law" which is absurd.

The work of the law is the work the law does. That is hardly controversial. The only other possibility is that it is an objective genitive, the Gentiles' work in respect of the law, which makes no sense here. The law, which was written on Adam's heart is written on the heart of all men, though smudged and defaced by the fall. It is re-written on the hearts of believers when they are born again (Psalm 40:8; Jeremiah 31:33). What the Gentiles did not have is the law written on tablets of stone like the Israelites.

Paul denies they have the law and he is denying this in view of the day of judgement. Look at the context! On the day of judgment Gentiles will not be judged by the Law but will be judged by their own conscience which is "A LAW UNTO THEMSELVES."

You are confused. God judges no one by their conscience. Unsaved folk show that they have a knowledge of the Moral Law when they do the things contained in the law. Why do they sometimes do the things contained in the law? Because their consciences are prompting them to do so, and their thoughts (Romans 2:15) either accuse them or defend them when they fail to do so. And on the Last day it will be seen (Romans 2:16) that all men have a knowledge of God's holy laws, but in the main they have not only not kept them, but have broken them with relish and approved of those who have done likewise (Romans 1:32).