Steve Bannon

[Calminian]

Yes, there was a rape lawsuit filed against Trump.

Or

No, there was never a rape lawsuit filed against Trump.

Please post your answer.

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Option C. There was never a credible lawsuit against Trump. Even the MSM didn't report on it, to the chagrin of many liberals. It shouldn't have been mentioned on these threads as a credible accusation.

The reason this was so wrong, was that you compared it to Clinton's accusations which were credible and public and everyone pretty much knows they are true. In the case of Trump's accuser she didn't even believe it was Trump until a dozen years after the fact.

 

[InTheLight]

Option C. There was never a credible lawsuit against Trump. Even the MSM didn't report on it, to the chagrin of many liberals. It shouldn't have been mentioned on these threads as a credible accusation.

Credible is an adjective, is subjective, and is not a part of the conversation.

The reason this was so wrong, was that you compared it to Clinton's accusations which were credible and public and everyone pretty much knows they are true. In the case of Trump's accuser she didn't even believe it was Trump until a dozen years after the fact.

No, I merely said, "did you know there was a rape lawsuit filed against Trump." I didn't compare it to anything.



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[Calminian]

....No, I merely said, "did you know there was a rape lawsuit filed against Trump." I didn't compare it to anything.

....In response to the Clinton victims. I'm curious, how you think Juanita Broaddrick would have taken your comparison? That is the subject you were responding to, after all. She was the context of the conversation, being an actual rape victim.

 

[InTheLight]

I've noticed that no one has offered any praise or defense of Bannon, other than Calminian.

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[Calminian]

I've noticed that no one has offered any praise or defense of Bannon, other than Calminian.

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You need to get our more, my bruthah.

 

[InTheLight]

Do you think a $1 trillion spending program paid for by borrowing the money is a conservative idea? For ship yards and iron works? It's 2016, not 1916!

Steve Bannon:
“Like [Andrew] Jackson’s populism, we’re going to build an entirely new political movement,” [Bannon] says. “It’s everything related to jobs. The conservatives are going to go crazy. I’m the guy pushing a trillion-dollar infrastructure plan. With negative interest rates throughout the world, it’s the greatest opportunity to rebuild everything. Ship yards, iron works, get them all jacked up. We’re just going to throw it up against the wall and see if it sticks. It will be as exciting as the 1930s, greater than the Reagan revolution — conservatives, plus populists, in an economic nationalist movement.”

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[Calminian]

Do you think a $1 trillion spending program paid for by borrowing the money is a conservative idea? For ship yards and iron works? It's 2016, not 1916!

Steve Bannon:
“Like [Andrew] Jackson’s populism, we’re going to build an entirely new political movement,” [Bannon] says. “It’s everything related to jobs. The conservatives are going to go crazy. I’m the guy pushing a trillion-dollar infrastructure plan. With negative interest rates throughout the world, it’s the greatest opportunity to rebuild everything. Ship yards, iron works, get them all jacked up. We’re just going to throw it up against the wall and see if it sticks. It will be as exciting as the 1930s, greater than the Reagan revolution — conservatives, plus populists, in an economic nationalist movement.”

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I'm not familiar with the details, so I'll just put it like this. I don't mind spending with the right CEO at the helm. All businesses need to make initial investments. It trust Trump because he knows how to get things done, and I'm excited as a small business owner about ramping up the economy. I think we're in for a fun 4 years.

Business is not a science, it's an art. There are people that know business inside and out and stink at it, and there are others that cause success everywhere they go. Trump is the latter. Bannon may have some interesting ideas, but Trump will know what's feasible and what's not.

Hillary would have no clue.

 

[InTheLight]

I'm not familiar with the details, so I'll just put it like this. I don't mind spending with the right CEO at the helm. All businesses need to make initial investments. It trust Trump because he knows how to get things done, and I'm excited as a small business owner about ramping up the economy. I think we're in for a fun 4 years.

Business is not a science, it's an art. There are people that know business inside and out and stink at it, and there are others that cause success everywhere they go. Trump is the latter. Bannon may have some interesting ideas, but Trump will know what's feasible and what's not.

Hillary would have no clue.

So, there are no objections to borrow and spend so long as the right person is doing it. Increasing the national debt with make-work jobs building ships. Got it.

 

[Calminian]

So, there are no objections to borrow and spend so long as the right person is doing it. Increasing the national debt with make-work jobs building ships. Got it.

I don't think Trump is keen on borrowing. I think he'll leverage money to spend.

And yes, the debt may go up before it goes down, but I trust Trump on this more than anyone. He hates debt.

 

[InTheLight]

I don't think Trump is keen on borrowing. I think he'll leverage money to spend.

And yes, the debt may go up before it goes down, but I trust Trump on this more than anyone. He hates debt.

Yeah, you better get educated on this. Trump wants to borrow trillions of dollars to create fake jobs. When Obama did this he was roundly booed, rightly so, by conservatives. Borrowing and spending is not a conservative principle.


That $1 trillion price tag on Bannon's infrastructure plan isn't exactly news; when CNBC hosts threw out the number $500 billion during an August interview, Trump said, “You need a lot more than that to do it right.” And he said in his most recent book that infrastructure problems require “a trillion-dollar rebuilding program.”

Trump has also echoed Bannon's rhetoric about borrowing extensively to make it happen. He said in that CNBC interview: “The interest rates are so low, I mean, the numbers are so low, that yes this is a time to borrow and borrow long-term. So that we have the money and rebuild our infrastructure.” And top Trump economic adviser Tom Barrack has suggested this borrowing could add $10 trillion to the current $19 trillion national debt.

From the CNBC interview:

 

[Calminian]

Yeah, you better get educated on this. Trump wants to borrow trillions of dollars to create fake jobs....

I made a Trump predictions thread a while back. Why not post this one?

Please post your new predictions about Trump

It's open to all. You've not had the best luck, but be bold. Tell us what the future holds.

 

[InTheLight]

By not answering my question about being opposed to borrow and spending to create fake jobs, I'm going to take it as your approval of this sort of action and proof that you are a liberal in favor of government created fake jobs.

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[Calminian]

By not answering my question about being opposed to borrow and spending to create fake jobs, I'm going to take it as your approval of this sort of action and proof that you are a liberal in favor of government created fake jobs.

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I answered. Check back up the thread. You just didn't like the answer.

 

[InTheLight]

I answered. Check back up the thread. You just didn't like the answer.

Here's what you said:

I don't mind spending with the right CEO at the helm. All businesses need to make initial investments.

The U.S. is 230 years old. It's the world's largest economy. No initial investments needed. We are $19 trillion in debt.

You are in favor of spending more, borrowing more. That is a liberal position.

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[Calminian]

Here's what you said:



The U.S. is 230 years old. It's the world's largest economy. No initial investments needed. We are $19 trillion in debt.

You are in favor of spending more, borrowing more. That is a liberal position.

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I answered this. I don't think Trump likes borrowing to spend (I don't either). It think he will leverage money to build.

It's possible the debt might go up early on, as it's on a trajectory, but with Trump at the helm I'm not worried. He'll create growth that will eventually drive debt down.

Clear?

What is your prediction about the economy under Trump over the next 4 years? Come on, don't be shy. Post it in the above forum.

 

[InTheLight]

I answered this. I don't think Trump likes borrowing to spend (I don't either). It think he will leverage money to build.

I posted a quote from Trump saying "You're going out and borrowing on the United States government. This is the time to borrow, and borrow long term."

Trump LOVES debt. He described himself as the "king of debt."

It's possible the debt might go up early on, as it's on a trajectory, but with Trump at the helm I'm not worried. He'll create growth that will eventually drive debt down.

Clear?

Yep. You want to borrow and spend because you have blind faith in Trump, a guy who amassed $916 billion in debt and wrote it off on his taxes one year.

Furthermore, Congress rarely, rarely cuts spending.

The debt will NEVER come down so long as borrowing for trillion dollar make-work projects are happening. The US would need budget surpluses for decades with the surplus dedicated to reducing the debt for us to get completely out of debt.

The first $1 trillion budget was under Reagan. Took the U.S. 200 years to get there.

The first $2 trillion budget was under George W. Bush. Took another 16 years.

The first $3 trillion was under George W. Bush. Took an additional 3 years.

The first $4 trillion budget will be under Trump, if he gets his way. It would be only 9 years after the $3 trillion budget.



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[Calminian]

Fine! But my prediction is growth and a lower debt. You're seem scared to death to make a prediction. Why so shy? You made plenty before the election.

 

[InTheLight]

Fine! But my prediction is growth and a lower debt. You're seem scared to death to make a prediction. Why so shy? You made plenty before the election.

Lower debt? LOL!

Prediction. GDP growth of 2.5% to 3.5%, maybe 4% some quarters. Four year average around 3%. Good stock market growth.

Modest wage increases. Inflation will start rising in his out years.

Debt will top $25 trillion in 4 years. He will never run a budget surplus.

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[Benjamin]

Yeah, you better get educated on this. Trump wants to borrow trillions of dollars to create fake jobs. When Obama did this he was roundly booed, rightly so, by conservatives. Borrowing and spending is not a conservative principle.


That $1 trillion price tag on Bannon's infrastructure plan isn't exactly news; when CNBC hosts threw out the number $500 billion during an August interview, Trump said, “You need a lot more than that to do it right.” And he said in his most recent book that infrastructure problems require “a trillion-dollar rebuilding program.”

Trump has also echoed Bannon's rhetoric about borrowing extensively to make it happen. He said in that CNBC interview: “The interest rates are so low, I mean, the numbers are so low, that yes this is a time to borrow and borrow long-term. So that we have the money and rebuild our infrastructure.” And top Trump economic adviser Tom Barrack has suggested this borrowing could add $10 trillion to the current $19 trillion national debt.

From the CNBC interview:

Can I take this as a guarantee from you that Trump's plan for rebuilding our infrastructure, which I believe will take place, will add Trillions to our national debt? No way will he get around this? I just want to be clear of your position on this in case I want to revisit this subject of "education" in about 2 years.

 

[InTheLight]

Can I take this as a guarantee from you that Trump's plan for rebuilding our infrastructure, which I believe will take place, will add Trillions to our national debt? No way will he get around this? I just want to be clear of your position on this in case I want to revisit this subject of "education" in about 2 years.

If Trump gets the funding bill passed, yes, it will add at least the amount that's borrowed and because of the nature of compounding interest, a lot more as well.

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