Featured Discussion on Suicide

1) Yes, with some exceptions (like falling on a grenade in combat)

2) Yes, but you aren't saved by having all your sins confessed, etc. It would only matter if you believe you can lose salvation.

 

Yes it is, as one is taking right of God to end their life
No, as the only sin God canno forgive is rejection of Jesus

 

If done with full understanding and clearness of mind, yes. It is self-murder.

If done without rational understanding in a time of mental illness, maybe or maybe not. It might be considered something live manslaughter to oneself. That's for God to decide.

Perhaps, but for those who are in Christ, sin is not held against us. It damages fellowship with God, but it does not affect our eternal destiny. We do not have to be "saved" over and over through repentance. We repent from our sins because we are saved.

Suicide is a crushing tragedy to all those who are affected by it. I have lost a family member and a number of friends to it, and have had to help a number of others put the pieces back together when their loved ones ended their lives.

It is never a good solution.

 

GREAT point that all will die wt some sin still on them, big question is will Jesu be covering that sin debt, or will we!

 

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That is indeed NOT thesolution Gd will have for us, bunk God He knows all that went into that decision...

 

At our lowest point is hn the Devil will shout to us, but really need to tune into the still voice from God...

 

Yes....
God will always provde asolution, just in His time and way...
Thank God that He aso knows what was goingon at time of the suicide, and trust that He will do the righ thing in each case....

Thank God tha there is also hope for thoe left behind, as trust in the grace of God...

 

Some 'grey' area on this topic?:

My mother had late stage Alzheimer's when she decided to give it up and just stop eating. There's not a doubt in any of our minds that it was a deliberate decision on her part that it was time to go. She and Dad had already stated in their living wills years earlier that no feeding tubes were to ever be used for life support, due mainly from the awful experiences of their own mothers in the nursing homes. The Catholics that run the nursing home she was at were fit to be tied because we were determined to honor her wish.

It took her four days to pass. We stayed at her side the whole time. She wouldn't even take water but we did put ice cubes to her lips to keep her mouth from drying out.

I know of a man who was diagnosed with terminal cancer many years ago who did the same thing. His doctor provided him with the morphine in oral form that he needed to control the pain. The cancer never killed him, he starved himself to death.

I can't blame anyone in this predicament for doing this.

 

As a pastor this was a question I was asked to answer. For our Wednesday night service at church I had a box placed where people could drop any question concerning life and biblical things in it. I would then for a message for the question I draw out and that will be our Wednesday night services message.
I'll put some excerpts from that message here,
I. Understand the bible doesn’t contain the word suicide.

A. There are several places in scripture where someone took his or her life.
1. In Judges 9:54 Abimelech commanded his young man to slay him, virtually committing suicide.
2. Judges 16:29-31 We see Samson, now having had his eyes put out and mocked
3. Brought into the temple to be made sport of
4. Made one last request of the Lord
5. See in verse 28 he starts his prayer
6. But in verse 30 he request that God would allow him to die with his enemies
7. Notice that very thing happens
8. God gave Samson his strength back and killed his himself and himself.
9. Then we see 1 Samuel 31 in the heat of battle Saul in lieu of being captured choose to die, he too commanded the armor bearer to kill him but when he wouldn’t Saul fell upon his sword and the armor bearer then fell upon his own sword.
10. 2 Samuel 17:23
11. 1 Kings 16:18 we see Zimri
B. We see from scripture those who have committed suicide.
1. Their reasons, thoughts and expressions are the same as many of those today who contemplate suicide.
2. Feelings of hopelessness and despair
3. Utter disappointment,
4. Pride,
5. Anger
6. And frustration call all be present.
then another section
A. So would a believer die and go straight to Heaven?
1. Certainly
2. Romans 8:2
3. Galatians 4:5 The Greek term huiothesia is a term for adopting a child A legal term and in the days of Paul once a child was adopted you could never cut that child of or deny a child you adopted.
then another section:
IV. But you might ask how could, a child of God do this!
A. Because as we see in 1 Corinthians 10:13 we are subject to the same temptations as the lost.
1. No temptation
2. No Trial in our life as a believer is too Great.
3. God can make a way of escape
4. As believers the way of escape is not Suicide.
5. Prayer can be a way of escape
6. God can answer our prayers and does.
B. How does any child of God commit any sin?
1. 1-John 1:8 We still have a nature in us to sin, Romans 7
2. 1 John 1:9 is also a way of escape after we have sinned
3. Samson again comes to mind
4. As we said earlier a prisoner of the Philistines
5. He asked God for one more time of great strength
6. He wanted to avenge himself of being blinded by them.
7. He committed suicide in dying with them although it was an act of war.
8. God gave him that strength and allowed him to die with his enemies.
C. Yet understand something her something very important
1. Samson was saved
2. He believed in the savior who was coming
3. He believed in Christ who was coming
4. How do we know you might ask
5. Hebrews 11:32 tells us so
6. He is listed in the believers Hall of Fame.
D. Those who want to say suicide is unforgiveable are contradicting God.
1. They elevate suicide to sin that is higher than God’s compassion and mercy can forgive
2. The say God cannot forgive it
E. There are problems with believing suicide can’t be forgiven and that those who commit it will go directly to hell.
1. The first thing we must understand about that stance is that it limits God.
2. It virtually places God in Box
3. The second is that scripture is clear,
4. There is only one unforgivable sin mentioned in scripture as we saw
5. Matthew 12:31 as we saw
6. Blaspheme of the Holy Spirit.
7. Jesus says every other sin is forgiven
8. So yes a believer who commits suicide can go to heaven.

This fairly well from scripture answers the question.

 

<Sigh>

This was not the case with Mom or the man with terminal cancer. Their bodies did not 'shut down'. They simply refused to eat. I know, I was there, every day, I fed Mom every day and was intimate with the entire ordeal all the way through. Deep down she decided she had had enough.