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Are you a Reformed Baptist, and define that term!

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Yeshua1

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Bro. James said:
To answer the question: No.

Mormonism: another good example of Reformed Apostasy. What is the criteria for reforming that which is apostate? Joseph Smith Jr. claims to have received a revelation from God. Smith is either a true prophet or a false prophet. If true, we should all be Mormon. If false, Mormonism is still apostate regardless of the origin of the leadership. It matters not how many times a religion is reformed, it is still apostasy reformed.

The same criteria can be applied to that which has become known as Catholic. Catholicism is a bizarre collection of that which is apostate from Rome: universal church and salvation by works including infant baptism, just to name a few. This is all another gospel--anathema.

Reformed Baptists have a very confused ecclesiology. They think the Church is universal. This is the basic fatal error which permeates the majority of Christendom. Jesus promised to send Another Comforter to abide, lead and direct in all Truth. He has kept His promise. Real New Testament Churches have no need of reformation.

Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Bro. James
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The truth of the Universal church is in he scriptures, and is NOT referring to it being the Church of Rome!
 
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Yeshua1

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Martin Marprelate said:
Never heard of him before, I'm afraid, but that is by far the earliest reference I'm aware of to the term 'Reformed Baptist.' Thank you.
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Interesting that LM Baptists see emselves as real NT curch, and not you, but some reformed Baptists see that you MUST hold to 1689 Confession to be a real Baptist!
 
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Bro. James

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Yeshua1 said:
The truth of the Universal church is in he scriptures, and is NOT referring to it being the Church of Rome!
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The universal church is visible according to Rome.

The universal church is invisible according to Wittenburg(Luther etal who came out of Rome willingly or not) Would Luther have stayed, had he not been excommunicated?

New Testament churches are local and visible, not universal.

The universal church has not assembled nor does it carry out the great commission. How does one give glory to God in a universal church? See Ephesians 3:21. Scriptural references to Church are made to specific congregations in specific places--local and visible. A lot of churches met in homes. Some still do. Now what?

Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Bro. James
 
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Martin Marprelate said:
Never heard of him before, I'm afraid, but that is by far the earliest reference I'm aware of to the term 'Reformed Baptist.' Thank you.
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Alexander Campbell and his followers in the United States (the Restoration movement that resulted in the Churches of Christ/Christian Churches/Disciples of Christ, which today have millions of members here) called themselves Reforming Baptists in the 1820s and 1830s before their break with traditional Baptists.
 
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Alexander Campbell and his followers in the United States (the Restoration movement that resulted in the Churches of Christ/Christian Churches/Disciples of Christ, which today have millions of members here) called themselves Reforming Baptists in the 1820s and 1830s before their break with traditional Baptists.
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Yes and apostate because of their emphasis on believers baptism in order to be saved .:)..ie, ones salvation is tied to it.
 
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Yeshua1 said:
Interesting that LM Baptists see emselves as real NT curch, and not you, but some reformed Baptists see that you MUST hold to 1689 Confession to be a real Baptist!
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Could you provide one actual example of this so we do not think you just made it up though?
 
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Iconoclast said:
Could you provide one actual example of this so we do not think you just made it up though?
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I hae had may posting on another Board with a reformed Minister, Baptist, who stattes that only real Baptists to Reformed acceptable are those hlding to Confessions of Faith, rest of us are something else!
 
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Iconoclast said:
Could you show the scriptures that teach this....you say they are there but no one knows where they are.
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Hebrews and Revelation shows to us the dead in Christ are now in Heaven, and they are watching us run our races here, so they are tisll part of theBody, just not here in the flesh in local churc pew!
 
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Earth Wind and Fire said:
That is his perception Tony, not reality
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many try and get Y1 to address scripture...at this point no one even cares what he perceives....they just want it scripturally based
Yeshua1 said:
I hae had may posting on another Board with a reformed Minister, Baptist, who stattes that only real Baptists to Reformed acceptable are those hlding to Confessions of Faith, rest of us are something else!
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could you cut and paste this so I could see this with my own eyes.
 
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Iconoclast

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Yeshua1 said:
Hebrews and Revelation shows to us the dead in Christ are now in Heaven, and they are watching us run our races here, so they are tisll part of theBody, just not here in the flesh in local churc pew!
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Well are speaking of living saints.....on earth.....could you show those verses
 
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Iconoclast said:
many try and get Y1 to address scripture...at this point no one even cares what he perceives....they just want it scripturally based
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There are many people who are involved in church who don't really study scripture......perhaps Y is one of them. You have noted that he/she struggles with putting together a sentence. That's not a knock, merely an observation. But good luck with paring scripture to it. Maybe the next time your in Detroit you could meet with him.
 
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Earth Wind and Fire said:
There are many people who are involved in church who don't really study scripture......perhaps Y is one of them. You have noted that he/she struggles with putting together a sentence. That's not a knock, merely an observation. But good luck with paring scripture to it. Maybe the next time your in Detroit you could meet with him.
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I actually can read/study theology from those such as Hodgh/Berkhof/Grudem/Calvin/Erickson, but for some rason hard for me to have proper grammar at times!
 
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Bro. James

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Earth Wind and Fire said:
There are many people who are involved in church who don't really study scripture......perhaps Y is one of them. You have noted that he/she struggles with putting together a sentence. That's not a knock, merely an observation. But good luck with paring scripture to it. Maybe the next time your in Detroit you could meet with him.
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Maybe the next time 'you are' in your grammar checker see if 'your' is ever a verb form. Sometimes contractions get complicated. Sometimes we all need a refresher course in 8th grade English Grammar.

Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Bro. James
 
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Earth Wind and Fire

Earth Wind and Fire

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Bro. James said:
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Maybe the next time 'you are' in your grammar checker see if 'your' is ever a verb form. Sometimes contractions get complicated. Sometimes we all need a refresher course in 8th grade English Grammar.

Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Bro. James
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I just do that to annoy ....apparently it works.:)

The Lord is good! Thank you Lord:)
 
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