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Prove it.
ChrisTheSaved
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They have no idea my friend. Then they complain about Trump winning and wonder how he won.
ChrisTheSaved
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According to him he never said that and would never imply race played a part.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/e...tion-hits-black-wages-hardest/article/2585963
Expert: Amnesty, illegal immigration, hits black wages hardest
Decades of illegal immigration have set back the economic fortunes of African American men, robbing jobs and wages and even playing a role in low marriage rates and putting more blacks in jail, according to a commissioner with the U.S. Civil Rights Commission.
"Illegal immigration has a disproportionately negative effect on the wages and employment levels of blacks, particularly black males," said Peter N. Kirsanow.
http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebat...kers/unskilled-workers-lose-out-to-immigrants
Unskilled Workers Lose Out to Immigrants
...as of November, there were 1.5 million fewer native-born Americans working than in November 2007, while 2 million more immigrants (legal and illegal) were working. Thus, all net employment gains since November 2007 have gone to immigrants.
The decline in work has particularly affected those under age 29, and the less-educated, who are the most likely to be in competition with immigrants. A study by the economist George J. Borjas and others found that immigration reduces the employment of less-educated black men. Another study came to the same conclusion. A recent analysis by Federal Reserve economist Christopher Smith (2012) found that immigration reduces the employment of U.S. teenagers.
"We are a nation of immigrants,” we are often told by the most affluent and educated segments of our society, who face the least competition from immigrants, so we shouldn't restrict immigration or enforce our laws. But this ignores the very real harm to poorer Americans affected by current high levels of immigration.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/2...take-away-jobs-black-people-daniel-greenfield
“[T]here’s no denying that many blacks share the same anxieties as many whites about the wave of illegal immigration flooding our Southern border—a sense that what’s happening now is fundamentally different from what has gone on before,” then-Senator Obama wrote in his 2006 autobiography, “The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream.”
”Not all these fears are irrational,” he wrote.
“The number of immigrants added to the labor force every year is of a magnitude not seen in this country for over a century,” Obama noted. “If this huge influx of mostly low-skill workers provides some benefits to the economy as a whole—especially by keeping our workforce young, in contrast to an increasingly geriatric Europe and Japan—it also threatens to depress further the wages of blue-collar Americans and put strains on an already overburdened safety net.”
“Native-born Americans suspect that it is they, and not the immigrant, who are being forced to adapt” to social changes caused by migration, he said."
Expert: Amnesty, illegal immigration, hits black wages hardest
Decades of illegal immigration have set back the economic fortunes of African American men, robbing jobs and wages and even playing a role in low marriage rates and putting more blacks in jail, according to a commissioner with the U.S. Civil Rights Commission.
"Illegal immigration has a disproportionately negative effect on the wages and employment levels of blacks, particularly black males," said Peter N. Kirsanow.
http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebat...kers/unskilled-workers-lose-out-to-immigrants
Unskilled Workers Lose Out to Immigrants
...as of November, there were 1.5 million fewer native-born Americans working than in November 2007, while 2 million more immigrants (legal and illegal) were working. Thus, all net employment gains since November 2007 have gone to immigrants.
The decline in work has particularly affected those under age 29, and the less-educated, who are the most likely to be in competition with immigrants. A study by the economist George J. Borjas and others found that immigration reduces the employment of less-educated black men. Another study came to the same conclusion. A recent analysis by Federal Reserve economist Christopher Smith (2012) found that immigration reduces the employment of U.S. teenagers.
"We are a nation of immigrants,” we are often told by the most affluent and educated segments of our society, who face the least competition from immigrants, so we shouldn't restrict immigration or enforce our laws. But this ignores the very real harm to poorer Americans affected by current high levels of immigration.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/2...take-away-jobs-black-people-daniel-greenfield
“[T]here’s no denying that many blacks share the same anxieties as many whites about the wave of illegal immigration flooding our Southern border—a sense that what’s happening now is fundamentally different from what has gone on before,” then-Senator Obama wrote in his 2006 autobiography, “The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream.”
”Not all these fears are irrational,” he wrote.
“The number of immigrants added to the labor force every year is of a magnitude not seen in this country for over a century,” Obama noted. “If this huge influx of mostly low-skill workers provides some benefits to the economy as a whole—especially by keeping our workforce young, in contrast to an increasingly geriatric Europe and Japan—it also threatens to depress further the wages of blue-collar Americans and put strains on an already overburdened safety net.”
“Native-born Americans suspect that it is they, and not the immigrant, who are being forced to adapt” to social changes caused by migration, he said."
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ChrisTheSaved
Active Member
Why would anyone in his right mind want to go to Houston? Arm pit of Texas (the other, left, arm pit is Austin).
And, if you don't like Hispanics, or hearing the Spanish language, Texas is probably not the place for you to live.
I have zero problems with Hispanics that are here legally. Why should I move anyway? Let's all try to go to Mexico and see if we can go to school, get food stamps, and then add on free medical care.
Your own words:
According to your own comparison to locusts, it seems like you do have a problem with them.
ChrisTheSaved
Active Member
OK now I can't use locust to describe actions of a culture that does not add value to something..ok snowflake.
Or... you could just think of others as Christ does.
An entire culture that brings nothing of value? Wow, just wow. Yeah, no problems with Hispanics there.
Except this assertion is not true. I have known a number of people who were here illegally (didn't know it at the time), and they learned English and spoke it quite well. So your blanket assertion is simply false.
Moreover, my mother-in-law teaches ESL (English as a Second Language) class as part of the ministry of our church to the community, and a number of the people who took the class were in the country illegally - they found out because they were departed or later filed for amnesty. The ESL class - as part of the body of Christ, not the government - does not ask about immigration status.
Wait, I thought that those darn illegals didn't learn English? How could they be bilingual?
What would you accept as "proof?"
Don't attempt to put words in my mouth. Don't be a liar.
Sure. That's why I'm advocating getting more education and making yourself more valuable to employers.
Absolutely. No one has said the fear is irrational. What I have been saying is that blaming other for one's lack of initiative is counterproductive.
First: What do you consider "significant"?
Second: Empirical evidence that "fear" was the driving factor behind their votes.
First, let me be clear. I believe education solves a lot of low wage job problems.
But:
The jobs we are talking about are going to illegal immigrants with little education. Why should a black American male, or female for that matter, have to have a better education than an immigrant to get the same job?
Wow,
I regret to have thought so highly of you.
Because I am a quarter Hispanic?
Which quarter is Hispanic?
A modest number high enough to swing the election to Mr. Trump.
What form would you like this evidence to take? I can name friends and family members who have essentially stated that they wanted Trump to make America good for white people again. There is also evidence on this very thread that indicates that there is quite a bit of fear of non-whites coming in and taking jobs. However, I'm guessing you won't find that acceptable.
We also have a number of white identity groups that have been advocates for Trump. Of course you may say that they are not expressing "fear" either, but I would disagree.
What empirical evidence will you accept?
"Modest" and "significant" seem to be at odds with each other.
Actual numbers of people who voted for Trump out of some sort of racial "fear" will work just fine.
Why is this so difficult for you when you are so sure of yourself?