ATG, what was your pastor's message again this last Lord's day??
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"I have kept the faith"...
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Faith, not works...
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Let's keep to the subject....
You work really hard to create your own self-faith. I'd suggest grace, but it seems you only want to do it on your own.
Perhaps a thorough immersion in the letter to the Galatians would be helpful.
AndThisGospel
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Argue with the verses I quoted because I'm not interested in your opinions.
Why would I pluck verses out of context and use them as my proof text for a pretext as you have done? It would be energy wasted on trying to unravel your pretzel.
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2 Peter Chapter 2
20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known [it], to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog [is] turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known [it], to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog [is] turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
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1 Timothy 4:1 - Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
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2 Peter 3:17 - Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall away from your own stedfastness.
So, what's the cut-off point?
One sin? 10 sins? 10,000 sins?
What have you done ATG, that has caused you to keep the faith when many haven't? Is your faith stronger, purer? Are you smarter? Is your heart better? Obviously you have found the secret to keep the faith. Please indulge us your knowledge.
One sin? 10 sins? 10,000 sins?
What have you done ATG, that has caused you to keep the faith when many haven't? Is your faith stronger, purer? Are you smarter? Is your heart better? Obviously you have found the secret to keep the faith. Please indulge us your knowledge.
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Seeing you're a 'non-attending christian', per your profile, how do you even know what Calvinism is? You are at odds with Hebrews 10:25...
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AndThisGospel
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I didn't really know until I came here....
You still don't. That fact is made obvious by your posts.
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Then you need to explain your position better....
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Hmm? I'm not speaking about sins against the law, but the sin of unbelief.....
"rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh" Phil 3:3
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Yes?
Huh??? Not the sins against the Law but the sin of unbelief? Srsly?
You do NOT know Calvinism in the least. Read some of the reformed writers and get your bible and reat along with them.
Unsaved mere professors
Many of us hav done that, but you reject spiritual truth...
I have been always believed that Salvation is something a man cannot turn away from. Nor would a sane man want to.
Paul also wrote;
Rom 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
The Gifts and caling are something we cannot turn from because we are kept by God Him Self.
1st Cor. Says.
1Co 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
1Co 6:20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.
In other we words we no longer have self rule if we are indeed the property of God Him Self. Oh we still sin and disobey God but this is a case where sin still dwells in our flesh.
Heb 9:12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
Eternal redemption means it last forever no matter what.
We are preserved in Christ.
Jud 1:1 Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called:
In other words preserved means we are kept by God.
2Ti 4:18 And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
Many who read Hebrews are confused by a few verses and stop there. I encourage you to read the whole book of Hebrews and study it closely and you will begin to understand what it's speaking about.
Paul was convinced that He was kept.
Rom 8:38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Rom 8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
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