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Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Earth Wind and Fire, Feb 7, 2017.

  1. Earth Wind and Fire

    Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known Member
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    ITL.....all you need do is follow the Troll to the Alt Right Cave where you will meet Steve Bannon & Steve Miller. And they will teach you, oh yes they will teach you that winning the election makes the President an exalted status.....god forbid you have any desires for a balanced & planned out election cycle, you will be labeled & sent to the gulag. So now repeat after me, "All hail Leader".....come on, raise your right hand.....raise it high and proud, sounds better in the original German.
     
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    When all else fails (including fake news) drag everyone down into the mud wallow along with some hate, ridicule and contempt.

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    You just described Trump & Company and the tactic's of the Alt Right....very good, Trump will be very proud of you Hank old boy. Just add a little hate for the Constitution & the Judicial system & some Putin Love and they might make you a club member.
     
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    Probably not, I discussed прощай with my wife who was born and raised in the Former Soviet Union. She had to give the word some thought. According to her:
    прощай not used in normal conversation.
    it is an archaic\poetic usage. Something you'd expect to see in Pushkin.
    it would be used when saying goodbye at the airport to someone you may or may not see again.​

    I assume, EWF, you used an app like Google translate. I do know in 26 years of living with Russian speakers this is the first I heard\seen the word.
     
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    Where in the USSR is she from? Was she chased through the snow by Cossack's? Was she sent to a Gulag?
     
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    She was born in Tashkent to Evangelical Christian-Baptist parents. They had moved to Uzbekistan in the 1930s. Her father spent time in jail on bogus charges because he wouldn't cooperate (snitch) with the KGB.
     
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    Ah, not the Ukraine, Slovakia, Poland or Crimea.

    Perhaps it choice of wording for goodby means "We will probably never meet again so goodbye" is particularly poignant & tragic / regretful in its delivery. Unfortunately they are all dead so I have no one to ask. They were refugees that our beautiful country allowed in....Looking in their eyes was like looking into the eyes of a person was so very grateful & loved this country far more than this generation could ever fathom. And I am proud of both them & their resolution to be Americans.

    I recently went to my great grandfathers resting place (he was in charge of all the pumps put into Scranton's Anthracite coal mines in the day--Installing them, designing them, repairing them, replacing them etc...Great Grandad was on call all the time....so he knew something about servitude. Well anyway, on his tombstone was the name "Steve" ---not Stefan. I asked my remaining cousin why they didn't use his original European name......he told me that he was so proud of his Americanized name that he told him to put that name on his stone. I am proud that I also have that name.
     
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    That is the usage she referenced. However, it's not that common. She did live in Moscow for ten years before immigrating as a religious refugee. And she graduated from in the States would be junior college.
     
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    Listen, I tried to learn Italian at one time.....the Neapolitan dialect......the teacher told me it changes every 10 years....due to moderation, immigration, nuances etc. So the language of my mother is not the language of my grandmother or my great grandmother. My point is , it changes....probably generational
     
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    You just proved my point again, again.

    HankD
     
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    EWF, my wife and I are part of the large (20,000+) Metro-Sacramento Russian-speaking community. It is multi-generational. The community is made up for the most part of Baptists and Pentecostals who came over under the Jackson-Varnik Amendment starting in the late 80s. Notices at the local public library are posted in English, Spanish, and Russian.
    So, it's not a generational matter. It is more likely a geographic one.
     
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    More Nazi allusions.

    Shameful.
     
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    What is shameful is attributing motives (like dishonest, hateful) to people simply because of a difference of opinion.
     
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    You could add the words "narrow minded" to the list.
     
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    FAKE POST :Laugh
     
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    Party of No!
     
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    You must have changed your mind.
     
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    LOL......Brilliant Deduction. But in truth, nope not yet!
     
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