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Are Christians in Trouble Spiritually?

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Yeshua1

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Talk about heresy. Are you a robot?
Would only apply towards secual sinning, as the Sabbath on sat and the dietary.civil laws been fulfilled at Calvary, and no longer binding on us in Christ!
Have you read where Paul lambasted peter to trying to have Gentiles still luive as being under Jewish Law, as now we have freedom in Christ!
 

Jason1

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Have you read where Paul lambasted peter to trying to have Gentiles still luive as being under Jewish Law, as now we have freedom in Christ!
Jewish law is TOTALLY different that the torah of YHVH. Once you realize that you will understand Paul.
 

Yeshua1

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Jewish law is TOTALLY different that the torah of YHVH. Once you realize that you will understand Paul.
Paul stated that those of us now in Christ are freed from the Law period as a way to either get or kept saved, correct?
 

Jason1

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Paul stated that those of us now in Christ are freed from the Law period as a way to either get or kept saved, correct?
Incorrect. You are freed from "oral laws" and from the penalty of written law. Read on:

Mat 19:17 And He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good except One – Elohim. But if you wish to enter into life, guard the commands.”

Joh_5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. -- (His Word is torah)
 

Yeshua1

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Incorrect. You are freed from "oral laws" and from the penalty of written law. Read on:

Mat 19:17 And He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good except One – Elohim. But if you wish to enter into life, guard the commands.”

Joh_5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. -- (His Word is torah)
Incorrect. You are freed from "oral laws" and from the penalty of written law. Read on:

Mat 19:17 And He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good except One – Elohim. But if you wish to enter into life, guard the commands.”

Joh_5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. -- (His Word is torah)
We are not under the Torah now, but under jesus!
 

Jason1

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Jesus is God, the Torah is not...
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with Elohim, and the Word was Elohim.

The Word is Elohim. The Word became Flesh. Jesus is the Word. The Word is Torah (proceeds from the Father).
 

Yeshua1

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Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with Elohim, and the Word was Elohim.

The Word is Elohim. The Word became Flesh. Jesus is the Word. The Word is Torah (proceeds from the Father).
Jesus is not the Torah, He is the author of it, but is not it!
 

Jason1

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I am under the New Covenant with God, why do you wish to stay under the old One that cannot save?
I don't. The New Covenant has His same laws as the terms.

Mat 19:17 And He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good except One – Elohim. But if you wish to enter into life, guard the commands.”
 

Yeshua1

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I don't. The New Covenant has His same laws as the terms.

Mat 19:17 And He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good except One – Elohim. But if you wish to enter into life, guard the commands.”
The ONLY way to get right with God is thru the Cross of Christ, and that is by receiving jesus thru faith period!
 

Jason1

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Ask paul, as he stated that we need to stay continually filled with the Holy Spirit, as that is the power to live as we ought now as saved!
Oh, thats nice. You don't even know what it means so you'll trash torah and live by an idea that doesn't even make sense to you.
 
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