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Should women vote in business meetings

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  1. Salty

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    In another thread - this poster stated:
    Steven says a women should have no authority - by voting in a business meeting a women does exhibit authority - So - should women be allowed to vote in Baptist business meetings?
     
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    A "vote" is not decision making. When we vote, we leave our voice - one among many. Of course a woman should have a vote in business meetings. Women often have a few that men just don't see and it is good and right that men listen to a woman's opinion as well. God created two - to compliment. We can't do it with just one gender's voice.
     
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    Yes, female members of a given local church should be able to vote in its business meetings. I assume Steven holds the interests of the female members would be represented by their husbands or fathers. In my home church's case, we have a number of single ladies (young, spinsters, and widows) who are not part of a family unit.
     
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    Salty - please allow me to add on: should women, or young people for that matter, be part of a pulpit committee, making a critical decision over other members of the local church?
     
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    If I'm a member of the church, then I should be part of a decision making body...
     
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    Excellent addition.
     
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    "The Sisters are not to vote in the Church." —Benjamin Keach, The Glory of a True Church, and Its Discipline Display'd: Wherein a True Gospel-Church Is Described (Keach's 1697 treatise on scriptural church government, was reprinted not long ago as part of the 9Marks Ministries' Polity book compiled by Mark Dever.)
     
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    Mark Dever is of the reformed persuasion...I won't be putting too much value in his words.
     
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    Absolutely not. Women's opinions should be filtered through their husbands or fathers, but they should not have an independent vote in business meetings. Maybe a three-fifths rule should apply. A man should vote for his women, but the women should count as only three-fifths of a vote.
     
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    You can always count on Jerome to drag up a 400-year-old Reformed document to discredit modern Reformed Baptists. Bless his heart. He's special.
     
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    Some other churches' pronouncements:



    Wisconsin Synod Lutherans:

    Man and Woman Roles – WELS

    "The scriptural applications that a woman remain silent (1 Co 14:34) and that a woman should not teach a man (1 Ti 2:11,12) require that a woman refrain from participating in these gatherings in any way which involves authority over men....In church assemblies the headship principle means that only men will cast votes when such votes exercise authority over men."



    Reformed Church U.S.:

    Reformed Church in the United States - Wikipedia

    "nearly all congregations prohibit women from voting in church elections"



    Reformed Baptist:

    www.arbca.com/arbca-constitution

    "each church may appoint two men, who are or have been church officers of that particular congregation, as voting messengers at General Assembly"
     
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    I love when y'all start flashing your "he-man woman haters club" membership cards.
     
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    God help us. Fifty churches define an entire movement. The three-fifths rule should apply.
     
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    I can't imagine how Jerome feels about Southern Baptist churches allowing women to vote. If it's Southern Baptist, it must be bad. Again, the three-fifths rule should apply.
     
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    Even IFBs allow women to vote!
     
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    Shame on them.
     
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    The fact that shemales played an important role in the ministry of Jesus and the early church is neither here nor there.
     
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    You do realize rsr is forgetting to use the <sarcasm> tag, right?
     
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    I might maybe be more supportive of a limited franchise if the limit was one vote per household.
     
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    Let's just keep that our little secret, along with the completely ignored historical reference, OK?
     
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