Woman senior pastor

First it is not just flawed it is in complete error with no amount of truth to it. It is inferior not equal to all other attempts to discuss the Trinity. God is three distinct persons and yet is one God. How does that work? We do not know exactly but modalism denies three distinct person. Therefore it is a non starter

 

Heresy is heresy. I personally do not measure it by degrees. Some might, by I see it as pointless to do so. Unfortunately, Modalism is a very common heresy in the SBC. (I can't speak for other Baptist denominations) .My orig. Point was that all attempts to model the Trinity contains error and are therefore incorrect. We should avoid using any of them.

 

In the SBC? Can you point me to anyone in the SBC who holds to modalism?

 

He might be thinking of this widely circulated tweet, but I am not certain it is real since I have not reviewed Dr. Patterson's feed:

 

Even if it is real it does not lead to modalism and his post implied it was far more spread than on tweet.

 

I private messaged you. I am not going to state something is heresy and then label brothers in Christ as teaching Heresy on open forum.

 

Can he provide ANY passages that state that women can be pastors/elders?

 

Van you give to us ANY passage that states a women was either a pastor'elder with any assembly in the NT?

 

His point is valid, as there is no way to see the scriptures allowing for female pastors/elders!

 

Yet you had no such compulsion about falsely defaming E. Earle Ellis in a public forum...

 

Sure he can. Go read his chapter.

 

Funny how you ask the question and then assert that there can be no answer. You have closed your mind to any position other than yours.

 

He is not a personal friend. However he goes about justifying women pastors, he is still wrong.
I actually respect the classic Pentecostal response the most. They admit it is in violation to scripture, they just do it anyway. I am close friends wit and will admit, have even preached in the pulpit of a woman Pentecostal pastor. She has told me several times that she knows what the scripture says. She knows she is wrong, but she "feels called." My answer always is "I ain't your judge. I personally will side with scripture. What you do is between you and God."

 

No, rather that I am not swayed by positions that would be stating what cultural demands to be the truth, and what God says that it is!

 

I have, and he basically just trues to assert that now we have no real distinctions/roles difference between male and females!

 

I am sure his argument which you reference revolves around the "biased translation" of diakanos.

 

Ordered Ellis's book. Got it yesterday. Haven't started reading. I don't agree with his position, but want to be aware of what his apologetic is.

All my life growing up I knew people who practiced sprinkling or pouring for (in place of) baptism. None (that I was aware of) ever bothered to defend it scripturally -- just took the position mode didn't matter. Then several years ago I ran across a tract on baptism from the Church of God in Christ, Mennonite, which made a scriptural argument for/defense of pouring as the proper mode of baptism. I don't agree and wasn't convinced, but it was intriguing to see someone actually defend the position they practiced. This is kind of how I feel about what you've said about Earle Ellis's book.

 

Modalism is not a model or analogy, it's a heretical view of the Trinity. It states there is only 1 Person in the Trinity.

 

If so, then that term would NOT show us females were either pastor/elder!