Featured Spiritual understanding - part 8

Some have pointed out that many scriptures about His first coming were literally fulfilled.
What they do not point out is the Kingdom instituted at that time was not literal and physical primarily.
It was a spiritual kingdom,literally instituted by the start of the formation of local NT. CHURCHES.......WHICH become the visible meeting place of kingdom members. The assemblies of individual Kingdom members being formed by the BRANCH....spoken of in Jeremiah 23, and Zech6.....become a physical expression of the spiritual temple prefigured by OT. Types.
The spiritual nature and reality was rejected by many in the first century, and many today.

 

From part 7, per Yeshua1:
“…All eyes shall see him per revelation, Jesus stated also that His coming will be as flash as lighting from east to the west, so will be something that will be recorded down as a BIG event….”
https://www.baptistboard.com/threads/spiritual-interpretation-pt-7.104950/page-7#post-2324327

This is so wrong and typical shallow, hasty, Dispensational misapplication [violence] of scripture. All one need do is to look DEEPER into scripture and let it interpret itself to get the true meaning of it:

26 If therefore they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the wilderness; go not forth: Behold, he is in the inner chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh forth from the east, and is seen even unto the west; so shall be the coming of the Son of man (the presence of the Son of Man; YLT). Mt 24

And he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see one of the days of the Son of man, and ye shall not see it. And they shall say to you, Lo, there! Lo, here! go not away, nor follow after them, for as the lightning, when it lighteneth out of the one part under the heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall the Son of man be in his day. Lu 17:22-24

Christ is telling them that 'in His day' [THAT BEING TODAY], He won't be 'in the desert' or in a 'secret chamber' or in Jerusalem or any other particular location on earth, He will be EVERYWHERE (as the lightning cometh forth from the east, and is seen even unto the west):

But thanks be unto God, who always leadeth us in triumph in Christ, and maketh manifest through us the savor of his knowledge in every place. 2 Cor 2:14

For the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the glory of Jehovah, as the waters cover the sea. Hab 2:14

And he shall stand, and shall feed his flock in the strength of Jehovah, in the majesty of the name of Jehovah his God: and they shall abide; for now shall he be great unto the ends of the earth. Micah 5:4

So shall they fear the name of Jehovah from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun; for he will come as a rushing stream, which the breath of Jehovah driveth. Isa 59:19

For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name shall be great among the Gentiles, saith Jehovah of hosts. Mal 1:11

 

It was recognized very early on the Judaizing affect of Chiliasm.

Why the Early Church Finally Rejected Premillennialism

 

The scriptures plainly state that when Jesus comes back, there will the resurrection of the saints to be glorified, He will set foot upon the Earth, and that the earth shall worship him as Lord, so when did that happen AD 70?

 

Was the resurrection of all the saints in AD 70?

 

The majority of the ECF saw it pre mil, and it took the views of Augustine who saw prophecy as spiritual and fulfilled in RCC to have that switched and changed!

 

Any comment on those posts then?

 

He just commented on your post saying they are useless because they have no scripture.

 

The assemblies of individual Kingdom members being formed by the BRANCH....spoken of in Jeremiah 23, and Zech6.....become a physical expression of the spiritual temple prefigured by OT. Types.
The spiritual nature and reality was rejected by many in the first century, and many today.....

From KIt Culver;

 

When viewed in connection with the Davidic Covenant, Psalm 110 introduces a priestly component to the covenant and its prophetic concern for David’s house and kingdom, even as it suggests the priestly quality of David’s own kingship. This, together with the recognition of David’s status as the epitomizing Israelite, leads William Dumbrell to observe regarding Psalm 110:


KIt Culver.
“In its contemplation of a priestly kingship, the psalm appears to suggest that in the person of the king, the demand contemplated for all Israel in Exod. 19:3b-6 has been embodied. Only kingship of that character, the psalm seems to imply in its second half, will guarantee the political extension of the Jerusalem kingdom, which it anticipates (Ps. 110:5-7). David’s line is thus to reflect, in the person of the occupant of the throne of Israel, the values which the Sinai covenant had required of the nation as a whole.” (Covenant and Creation)
In God’s developing revelation of His redemption in Christ, the two primary streams of Old Testament messianism (kingly and priestly) notably converge in the person of David. And having come together in him, they are projected onto the son promised in the covenant. What is not directly evident in the covenant itself is made explicit by its connection with Psalm 110: The Davidic Branch, in whom Yahweh had determined to establish David’s throne and kingdom forever, would exercise His everlasting reign in the context of a perpetual priesthood.
In fulfilling the Davidic kingship (cf. 110:1 with Matthew 22:41-45), the Davidic Branch would also fulfill the kingship of Melchizedek – the king of peace (“Salem”) and priest of God Most High (cf. 110:4 with Hebrews 5:5-10 and Romans 8:33-34 with Hebrews 7:1-8:6; cf. also Revelation 5:4-6). As the ultimate David, this son would establish Yahweh’s kingdom and secure its peace through the conquest of all its enemies. But having done so, He would go on to build Yahweh’s house, ruling forever as a priest upon His throne (Zechariah 6:9-15).

This principle, first introduced with the tabernacle (cf. Genesis 15:13-14 with Exodus 11:1-2, 12:35-36), becomes in the biblical storyline a foundational kingdom theme that eventually finds its ultimate fulfillment in Yahweh’s true house composed of men from every tribe, tongue and nation (cf. Haggai 2:1-9 with Zechariah 6:9-15; also Matthew 16:13-18 with 1 Peter 2:1-10). And so, even as the text records David’s ingathering of the “precious value” of the subjects of his kingdom for use in building the Lord’s holy dwelling, it does so conscious that it is pointing prophetically to the day when David’s greater Son would Himself repeat and fulfill His father’s work (cf. Amos 9:11-15 with Acts 15:1-18).

 

Set in the context of his dedication of that sanctuary, Solomon’s prayer makes a significant contribution to the developing concept of sacred space. For, viewed from the standpoint of the overall trajectory and goal of salvation history (of which they’re a part), Solomon’s actions reflect back on God’s ancient promise to restore all things to Himself. In that sense, his prayer presupposed and drew upon everything that had gone before it – not merely the Davidic Covenant, but the Mosaic, Abrahamic and Adamic foundations of that covenant.
- Thus Solomon opened his dedicatory prayer with praise to Yahweh for His faithfulness in fulfilling His promise to David (8:23-24).
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- As the Lord had “kept covenant” by seeing to it that David’s son built Him a house in Jerusalem (2 Samuel 7:13), so Solomon petitioned Him to show the same faithfulness with regard to His promise to build David’s house (1 Kings 8:25-26).
- Solomon’s opening praise and petition emphasize the temporal aspects of the Davidic Covenant, but verses 8:27-30 show that he also recognized that the covenant and its promises transcended their earthly expressions: The house he had built for Yahweh was nothing more than a material representation of His true dwelling place. Solomon understood that, as the covenant looked to a Davidic son beyond himself, so the sanctuary God had appointed that son to build transcended the physical temple in Jerusalem.
- The majority of Solomon’s prayer was concerned with the interplay between repentance and deliverance/restoration (ref. 8:30-53). Essentially, Solomon was petitioning Yahweh to deal with His covenant people in accordance with righteous mercy, and this petition has great importance when viewed in relation to the Davidic Covenant and the dedication of the temple:
Here the covenant son of David was standing as intercessor before Yahweh in the place where He had determined to meet with His people and pleading with Him to forgive and restore them to Himself as they turned to Him in humble, penitent faith.


The salvation-historical significance of Solomon’s petition is all the more profound in that he extended its reach beyond the people of Israel to the nations of the earth (vv. 41-43). Solomon sought for all mankind the same merciful reception at the Lord’s sanctuary that he sought for Israel. He prayed that the Lord would forgive and receive all who came to Him in repentant and dependent faith.

In Solomon’s prophetic conception, Yahweh’s house – built by the son of David – was to be a place of forgiveness, cleansing and refuge for all the nations (cf. Isaiah 56:1-8 with 11:10 and Zechariah 6:9-15; also John 2:13-21, 4:19-24 with 1 Peter 2:4-6)
Thus, when the exiles returned to Jerusalem under Cyrus as Yahweh promised and began to rebuild the temple, the post-exile prophets (Haggai and Zechariah) were emphatic that that work didn’t signal an impending restoration of the kingdom of Israel. Both indicated that the temple rebuilding process was only another prefiguration of what the Lord had promised David (Haggai 2:1-9). The Davidic Covenant specified that David’s seed would build Yahweh’s house; no such seed existed at the time of the rebuilding of the temple and, based on the Lord’s pronouncement to Jehoiachin, it seemed no such seed could arise in the future. Nevertheless, Zechariah insisted that the Davidic son (“Branch”) would indeed come and that He would build the Lord’s house as a priest-king – the priest according to the order of Melchizedek (cf. Zechariah 6:9-15; Psalm 110).

 

You can have theology given apart from the scriptures, as when I give my viewpoints, it is related th what is in the scriptures, its just that those holding to either pretierism or spirtualozing the scriptures would reject....

 

When did the resurrection of the saints, and the setting up of the Kingdom with Jesus as King ober the earth happen back then?

 

You make unfounded claims constantly.
No one cares if you are on the right side of the issue or the wrong side of the issue because you do not establish it scripturally..
If Kyred or Covenanter writes a sentence or two that will be after they posted a dozen verses or so.
I would have to do a whole thread on your misguided ideas....
Do not speak about anyone " spiritualizing anything when you were silent on the verses dealing with the sun, moon, and and stars.
I Could start a thread on your responses...or rather your lack of real responses, but you would not like it.
These men have offered you verse after verse which you do not respond to.