PCUSA Minister Calls FBC Dallas Choir Number Blasphemy

[Reynolds]

That's funny. When has the "church" withdrawn from politics?

Under the LBJ administration.

 

[Lewis]

Can't disagree with that. But it's not the same as breast-thumping about how great the nation (or the current politician) is and God is on our side.

Well what you call breast thumping, others may call thanking the Lord for His great blessings. Gratitude you know.

 

[Lewis]

There is tradition of Baptists called separation of church and state. Goes way back.

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True. But no one ever criticized a church for scolding Trump or his policies. Most are strangely silent on that.

 

[Lewis]

In the Temple of God in the New Jerusalem.

HankD

So no, there is no alter in a Baptist church.

 

[church mouse guy]

The older generation sang "Battle Hymn of the Republic" in church all the time. This song was not sung at a religious function according to the pastor, who was on TV explaining that.

Another historical note, most churches have the American flag. A hundred years ago, The Salvation Army was taking a lot of heat for being an English denomination operating in the USA and elsewhere. The Salvationists took to waving the American flag at their services to hush the hostile Americans.

 

[FollowTheWay]

One sponsored by First Baptist Dallas and an evangelical broadcasting company.

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" or represented as coming from our religious beliefs." This certainly looks like the case wherever it was performed. However I clearly saw organ pipes behind the choir.

 

[InTheLight]

True. But no one ever criticized a church for scolding Trump or his policies. Most are strangely silent on that.

That is kind of weird given the wealth of opportunities available.

 

[HankD]

So no, there is no alter in a Baptist church.

I have seen them in some Baptists local churches.

And in fact sometimes an "altar" call is made to come forth to said altar for rededication of life, etc.

Also it is used to place the bread and grape juice on during the Lord's Supper.

HankD

 

[Lewis]

I have seen them in some Baptists local churches.

And in fact sometimes an "altar" call is made to come forth to said altar for rededication of life, etc.

Also it is used to place the bread and grape juice on during the Lord's Supper.

HankD

Yes it is used in a symbolic manner. I attended Baptist churches most of my life but have never seen an actual alter in any of them.

 

[Lewis]

The older generation sang "Battle Hymn of the Republic" in church all the time. This song was not sung at a religious function according to the pastor, who was on TV explaining that.

Another historical note, most churches have the American flag. A hundred years ago, The Salvation Army was taking a lot of heat for being an English denomination operating in the USA and elsewhere. The Salvationists took to waving the American flag at their services to hush the hostile Americans.

And when you look into it, many nations have Christian symbols on their national flags. Possibly a relic of times when such things were not frowned upon.

 

[church mouse guy]

And when you look into it, many nations have Christian symbols on their national flags. Possibly a relic of times when such things were not frowned upon.

Excellent point!!!

 

[Revmitchell]

You are the one missing the point. What we're discussing is the anthem they sang at the Trump rally. It had none of what I mentioned. That is undeniable. That's what we're talking about.

Whether the choir sang other songs at other times is neither here nor there. I never said the choir never sang other songs. Were talking about is a specific event, not what the choir might have sung on Sunday mornings. This is not rocket science.

Except that was not made clear in your post. You painted them as

Can't disagree with that. But it's not the same as breast-thumping about how great the nation (or the current politician) is and God is on our side.

So where is this quote from a church that has said God is on our side?

 

[HankD]

Yes it is used in a symbolic manner. I attended Baptist churches most of my life but have never seen an actual alter in any of them.

We have one in my local church - it's wood and carved on the front is "IN REMEMBRANCE OF ME".

Everyone of us understands the symbolism.

However, a case can be made that it is a throwback to the Church of Rome.
Without any theological implications of transubstantiation of course.

HankD

 

[Lewis]

We have one in my local church - it's wood and carved on the front is "IN REMEMBRANCE OF ME".

Everyone of us understands the symbolism.

However, a case can be made that it is a throwback to the Church of Rome.
Without any theological implications of transubstantiation of course.

HankD

That quote is engraved on a table at the front of every Baptist church that I've ever attended, and of course refers to taking communion. As you pointed out HankD.

 

[HankD]

That quote is engraved on a table at the front of every Baptist church that I've ever attended, and of course refers to taking communion. As you pointed out HankD.

Yes, a blessed and precious ordinance whereby we do show the LORD's death til He come.

HankD