Shew Us The Father?

[tyndale1946]

I'm reading this book online titled The Great Empire Of Prophecy from Babylon to the Fall of Rome by Alonzo Trevier Jones written in the 1800's. I was going to post this in the other Christian Discussion Forums but decided not to as it mentions Catholics and decided I wanted a friendly discussion and not a donnybrook... I have always understood the Trinity as God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit in three distinct persons and three distinct works... Then again as I also found out there was much controversy in the latter scriptures in Mark which I posted... Now I see there also arose controversy on the Trinity in establishing the Nicene Creed... If you want to look at what I've been reading you can see it in pdf form, in Chapter 33 page 336 and Chapter 34 page 352... When Emperor Constantine formed the counsel... What are your thoughts?... Brother Glen

homoiousia - similarity but not identity in essence or substance:
essential likeness
homoiousian - n. one that accepts the homoiousian doctrine
homoiousian - adj. 1a: holding to the doctrine that the Son is
essentially like the Father but not of the same substance; b: of or
relating to the doctrine of homoiousia -- distinguished from
homoousian
homoiousianism - the doctrines and beliefs of the homoiousians
homoousia - identity in essene or substance
homoousian - n. one that accepts the homoousian doctrine of the Nicene
Creed
homoousian - adj. 1a: holding to the doctrine of the Nicene Creed that
the Son of God is of the same essence or substance with the Father; b:
of or relating to the doctrine of homoousia -- distinguished from
homoiousian
homoousianism - the doctrines and beliefs of the homoousians
homoousion - a theological doctrine holding that Christ is of one
substance with God
The only difference in spelling is the presence or absence of "i"
after "homo".
The second word, without "i", seems to be nearer the truth. Actually,
there is only one true God and who was made into three: God the
Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. It is the same God, the
same being, who manifested Himself as three persons.

 

[HankD]

Homoousia is correct.

HankD

 

[Yeshua1]

I'm reading this book online titled The Great Empire Of Prophecy from Babylon to the Fall of Rome by Alonzo Trevier Jones written in the 1800's. I was going to post this in the other Christian Discussion Forums but decided not to as it mentions Catholics and decided I wanted a friendly discussion and not a donnybrook... I have always understood the Trinity as God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit in three distinct persons and three distinct works... Then again as I also found out there was much controversy in the latter scriptures in Mark which I posted... Now I see there also arose controversy on the Trinity in establishing the Nicene Creed... If you want to look at what I've been reading you can see it in pdf form, in Chapter 33 page 336 and Chapter 34 page 352... When Emperor Constantine formed the counsel... What are your thoughts?... Brother Glen

homoiousia - similarity but not identity in essence or substance:
essential likeness
homoiousian - n. one that accepts the homoiousian doctrine
homoiousian - adj. 1a: holding to the doctrine that the Son is
essentially like the Father but not of the same substance; b: of or
relating to the doctrine of homoiousia -- distinguished from
homoousian
homoiousianism - the doctrines and beliefs of the homoiousians
homoousia - identity in essene or substance
homoousian - n. one that accepts the homoousian doctrine of the Nicene
Creed
homoousian - adj. 1a: holding to the doctrine of the Nicene Creed that
the Son of God is of the same essence or substance with the Father; b:
of or relating to the doctrine of homoousia -- distinguished from
homoiousian
homoousianism - the doctrines and beliefs of the homoousians
homoousion - a theological doctrine holding that Christ is of one
substance with God
The only difference in spelling is the presence or absence of "i"
after "homo".
The second word, without "i", seems to be nearer the truth. Actually,
there is only one true God and who was made into three: God the
Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. It is the same God, the
same being, who manifested Himself as three persons.

whatever it means to be God, by nature and attributes, all 3 Persons have them!

 

[The Biblicist]

I'm reading this book online titled The Great Empire Of Prophecy from Babylon to the Fall of Rome by Alonzo Trevier Jones written in the 1800's. I was going to post this in the other Christian Discussion Forums but decided not to as it mentions Catholics and decided I wanted a friendly discussion and not a donnybrook... I have always understood the Trinity as God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit in three distinct persons and three distinct works... Then again as I also found out there was much controversy in the latter scriptures in Mark which I posted... Now I see there also arose controversy on the Trinity in establishing the Nicene Creed... If you want to look at what I've been reading you can see it in pdf form, in Chapter 33 page 336 and Chapter 34 page 352... When Emperor Constantine formed the counsel... What are your thoughts?... Brother Glen

homoiousia - similarity but not identity in essence or substance:
essential likeness
homoiousian - n. one that accepts the homoiousian doctrine
homoiousian - adj. 1a: holding to the doctrine that the Son is
essentially like the Father but not of the same substance; b: of or
relating to the doctrine of homoiousia -- distinguished from
homoousian
homoiousianism - the doctrines and beliefs of the homoiousians
homoousia - identity in essene or substance
homoousian - n. one that accepts the homoousian doctrine of the Nicene
Creed
homoousian - adj. 1a: holding to the doctrine of the Nicene Creed that
the Son of God is of the same essence or substance with the Father; b:
of or relating to the doctrine of homoousia -- distinguished from
homoiousian
homoousianism - the doctrines and beliefs of the homoousians
homoousion - a theological doctrine holding that Christ is of one
substance with God
The only difference in spelling is the presence or absence of "i"
after "homo".
The second word, without "i", seems to be nearer the truth. Actually,
there is only one true God and who was made into three: God the
Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. It is the same God, the
same being, who manifested Himself as three persons.

The easiest way that I have found to explain the likeness and differences between the Persons in the Triunity is to acknowledge they all share one common substance which is "spirit" and that "spirit" is distinguished from other spirits (angels, human) by attributes that define God as God (immutable, eternal, omni-present, omniscient, omnipotent,etc.) and that the distinctions between Persons within the God head who co-existently and co-eternally share all these God attributes has to do with the eternal covenant redemption with regard to position and covenant obligations.

 

[JonC]

I think that we sometimes like to have our theology packaged into bite sized portions, which is all well and good until we expect our portions to encompass all there is about the matter.

I believe God is Father, Son and Spirit - separate in persons as evidenced by a submissiveness of the will in Scripture. But all Three are One God.

And I had to look up donnybrook.

 

[tyndale1946]

I think that we sometimes like to have our theology packaged into bite sized portions, which is all well and good until we expect our portions to encompass all there is about the matter.

I believe God is Father, Son and Spirit - separate in persons as evidenced by a submissiveness of the will in Scripture. But all Three are One God.

And I had to look up donnybrook.

Oh Jonnie boy!... You mean your not Irish?... Here is a little toast from the green isle, you might enjoy... Brother Glen

May your glass be ever full.
May the roof over your head be always strong.
And may you be in heaven half an hour before the devil knows you're dead.

 

[JonC]

Oh Jonnie boy!... You mean your not Irish?... Here is a little toast from the green isle, you might enjoy... Brother Glen

May your glass be ever full.
May the roof over your head be always strong.
And may you be in heaven half an hour before the devil knows you're dead.

I am Irish (eleven generations removed)

 

[HankD]

I think that we sometimes like to have our theology packaged into bite sized portions, which is all well and good until we expect our portions to encompass all there is about the matter.

I believe God is Father, Son and Spirit - separate in persons as evidenced by a submissiveness of the will in Scripture. But all Three are One God.

And I had to look up donnybrook.

Distinct in persons, not separate in persons

I am not Irish

HankD

 

[tyndale1946]

I am Irish (eleven generations removed)

Oh that explains The Blarney Stone... Your family put it there... Brother Glen