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I get a lot of my outlandish conclusions from: New Advent Encyclopedia.

See: www.newadvent.org/cathen/13674a.htm

cathen/12495a.htm

cathen/02278a.htm

The basic paradigm for reading this stuff is: True Baptists are not Protestants and they have always rejected the authority of Rome.

Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Bro. James

 

Another interesting milestone in "Christian" history: 28 Feb 380 A.D, "Nicene Christianity is made the official religion of the Roman Empire."
New Testament Churches were already growing nearly 350 years--without a Pontifex Maximus.

Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Bro. James

 

No sir you said divide.... Now tell me DIVIDE WHAT? What was there that had no division?

 

Is supporting the murder of children called abortion a good fruit or bad fruit?

 

Do you believe that some Christians will be lost after that so called judgement, mainly due to not keeping the Sabbath, and refusing Ellen White as a prophetess?

 

Why do you not give to us what the SDA REALLY teaches and holds with though?

 

I don't care what denomination supports it.

I asked a straight forward question:

Is supporting the murder of children called abortion a good fruit or bad fruit?

If I support abortion is that good fruit or bad fruit?

 

The following is an excerpt taken from Advent Life: 'What I Learned About Abortion & My SDA Church' by Nic Samojlik.

• Most SDA owned hospitals were providing therapeutic abortion several years before the legalization of abortion.
• Fear of revenue loss prompted some SDA hospitals to offer abortion on demand in response to the demands of non-Adventists physicians employed by the church.
• One of these church-owned institutions was recently labeled as an “abortion mill” by a leading church official.
• When pressed for an official statement by the church back in 1970, Neal Wilson, the president of the North American Division of Seventh-day Adventists at the time predicted that the church would adopt a pro-choice position regarding abortion, and rationalized said practice as a reasonable way to control the world hunger and population.
• The official Guidelines on Abortion document voted by the church seems to be a mixture of lofty pro-life statements mingled with pro-choice exceptions that render the apparently pro-life policy meaningless.
• Said official Guidelines on Abortion are non-prescriptive in nature, and each SDA institution is free to set their own policies dealing with abortion.
• Official church documents call for the protection of human life, but a leading SDA ethicist has declared that the church has decided not to pinpoint when human life begins. (That's real biblical, eh Bob!)
• Several of the leading pro-life movers within the SDA church have since left the community in order to pursue their independent ministries.
• There has been a seemingly dramatic shift in the SDA church’s attitude towards the sanctity of human life immediately prior and following the legalization of abortion by the Supreme Court of the United States of America.

I found the very first comment in response to this article of interest:

Hi Nic,

Having been a pro-life SDA, now Catholic, I was enlightened to read in your book, and to discover for the first time, the writings of the early Adventist pioneers who were opposed to abortion and very much pro-life. It is not surprising that these first Adventists were opposed strongly to abortion. What is surprising is that modern SDA church leadership has turned 180 degrees to support abortion in general, and specifically in their hospitals, by official decree and policy.

I hope the majority of SDAs can learn something from your book and have the courage to take the moral and Christian stand for the protection of the lives of innocent and helpless human beings, even in the face of the leadership of the SDA church.

God bless all!!!

Mike

 

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Yes, the origin is pagan. This also corroborates the fact that the Vatican cannot demonstrate ties to the New Testament. Constantine The Great's "in hoc signo vinces" is a politico-religious scam--still a major player in apostasy. There is no scriptural papacy, never has been. Now what? What is in our credo?

Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Bro. James

 

"I never claimed the Christian church had no divisions before the Catholic denomination"

Name two divisions. Name that Christian church. Give me the date before it divided.

 

A short kibbitz: The mystery of iniquity was already at work when the NT was written. The state owned religion which came out in Rome in the 4th century has nothing to do with NT Christianity. That group is still alive and well(?) in the Vatican. It is paganism many times reformed. How many times does one reform apostasy to get Truth?

Check out Jude 3--also the whole letter.

Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Bro. James

 

Well, there was the true church of Christ here before even the catholic church, correct?

 

AGREED. You better take a closer look at that history book The State supported Arianism and the church hung by a thread through ST. Athanasius of Alexandria. Who was the sole defender of the Trinity.


Oh look, Catholics existing before your claim of when it was invented:

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Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith. Which faith except every one do keep whole and undefiled; without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. And the catholic faith is this: That we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity; Neither confounding the Persons; nor dividing the Essence. For there is one Person of the Father; another of the Son; and another of the Holy Ghost. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, is all one; the Glory equal, the Majesty coeternal. Such as the Father is; such is the Son; and such is the Holy Ghost. The Father uncreated; the Son uncreated; and the Holy Ghost uncreated. The Father unlimited; the Son unlimited; and the Holy Ghost unlimited. The Father eternal; the Son eternal; and the Holy Ghost eternal. And yet they are not three eternals; but one eternal. As also there are not three uncreated; nor three infinites, but one uncreated; and one infinite. So likewise the Father is Almighty; the Son Almighty; and the Holy Ghost Almighty. And yet they are not three Almighties; but one Almighty. So the Father is God; the Son is God; and the Holy Ghost is God. And yet they are not three Gods; but one God. So likewise the Father is Lord; the Son Lord; and the Holy Ghost Lord. And yet not three Lords; but one Lord. For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity; to acknowledge every Person by himself to be God and Lord; So are we forbidden by the catholic religion; to say, There are three Gods, or three Lords. The Father is made of none; neither created, nor begotten. The Son is of the Father alone; not made, nor created; but begotten. The Holy Ghost is of the Father and of the Son; neither made, nor created, nor begotten; but proceeding. So there is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons; one Holy Ghost, not three Holy Ghosts. And in this Trinity none is before, or after another; none is greater, or less than another. But the whole three Persons are coeternal, and coequal. So that in all things, as aforesaid; the Unity in Trinity, and the Trinity in Unity, is to be worshipped. He therefore that will be saved, let him thus think of the Trinity.

Furthermore, it is necessary to everlasting salvation; that he also believe faithfully the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ. For the right Faith is, that we believe and confess; that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is God and Man; God, of the Substance [Essence] of the Father; begotten before the worlds; and Man, of the Substance [Essence] of his Mother, born in the world. Perfect God; and perfect Man, of a reasonable soul and human flesh subsisting. Equal to the Father, as touching his Godhead; and inferior to the Father as touching his Manhood. Who although he is God and Man; yet he is not two, but one Christ. One; not by conversion of the Godhead into flesh; but by assumption of the Manhood into God. One altogether; not by confusion of Substance [Essence]; but by unity of Person. For as the reasonable soul and flesh is one man; so God and Man is one Christ; Who suffered for our salvation; descended into hell; rose again the third day from the dead. He ascended into heaven, he sitteth on the right hand of God the Father Almighty, from whence he will come to judge the living and the dead. At whose coming all men will rise again with their bodies; And shall give account for their own works. And they that have done good shall go into life everlasting; and they that have done evil, into everlasting fire. This is the catholic faith; which except a man believe truly and firmly, he cannot be saved.

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^Athanasius Creed.

The Catholics FIRST defenders of the Trinity.

Athanasius was Catholic. Without him you chop off the knees of having a legit bible. Because the guy who gave you bible got it from the guy who got it from Athanasius.

You have probably seen this:
To explain the trinity, Cute isn't it?


Maybe some protestants made that up overnight on the internet.......










Nope.