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9/11 Revisited

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Covenanter

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Who cares? Lewinski/Clinton is not the topic under discussion. Please stay on topic.

Was $15 million adequate to research such a massive attack on the USA? Especially when trillions are being wasted on endless wars resulting from acknowledged FALSE conclusions.
 

Rippon

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Now, now Squire Robertson, the conspiracists can claim that "no pilot could make a plane fly that way" despite the fact that eyewitnesses saw the plane fly that way.
Someone not qualified to fly a little Cessna was able to do what the most experienced and skilled pilots have said is impossible?!

I don't think so.

Your faith in the incredible is foolhardy.
 

Rippon

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Who cares? Lewinski/Clinton is not the topic under discussion. Please stay on topic.
Don't be a hypocrite.

You have posted nonsense posts on this thread as well as on mine. Talk about off-topic --you specialize in that department.
 

Rippon

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Except it was not, obviously, a controlled demolition. The very first thing you notice about every controlled demolition is that it is controlled. Such demolitions are always from the bottom up. NEVER from the top down as the WTC towers obviously collapsed.
"If you need to make it look as if buildings were destroyed by planes that struck them on high floors, you have to start the controlled demolition up there, instead of the bottom as you typically would. Since the detonators on cutter charges can be wireless and computer-controlled, there's no problem with doing this --you can create pretty much any scenario of destruction you want." p.42 of 9/11 :The Simple Facts by Arthur Naiman
 

FollowTheWay

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The (false) claim is made that Mark Loizeaux, President of Controlled Demolition, Inc. said he saw pools of molten steel. But when asked he said, "I didn't personally see molten steel at the World Trade Center site."

Then the claim was made "The observation of molten metal at Ground Zero was emphasized publicly by Leslie Robertson, the structural engineer responsible for the design of the World Trade Center Towers."

But when Mr. Robertson was contacted, he said, "I've no recollection of having made any such statements...nor was I in a position to have the required knowledge."
People who made truthful statements like that were immediately threatened to retract those statements to hide the truth. Some died by mysterious causes and some were murdered. That was done to maintain the government conspiracy theory.
 

FollowTheWay

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Constructed differently. The old buildings were stiffer and structurally harder. The newer buildings are designed to flex and move. Lighter weight can be stronger in many ways but weaker in others.
Do you think someone could build a building today in Manhattan using 1929 building standards. Try selling a Model-T car.
 

Reynolds

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The Empire State Building was designed in the late 1920's. The WTC towers were designed in 1963. Do you really believe that buildings taller than the ESB were designed35 years later were built to lower design requirements? That building codes became less restrictive in 35 years in Manhattan? No way. I'm not even going to bother checking that out.
Back to this topic. I have an overhead crane at my plant that was built in 1946. It is rated at 12.5 tons. It is built heavier than a modern 25 ton crane I also have. Many years ago, the inspection engineer said, "I bet this crane will pass a 30 ton load test." I said "whatever." I did not know he was going to do one. Later that day he said "that old crane passed the 30 ton load test with less flex than a modern 30 ton crane. He asked of I wanted him to do the paperwork to make it a 25 ton crane. I said "no, I have a 25 ton crane."
 

FollowTheWay

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Fake. No "pools of molten steel" anywhere. Every person who has been said to have made that claim has stated they never said any such thing.

The really important point is finding not only thermite but thermate, which is a form of thermite laced with sulfur, underneath ground zero. This greatly increases the explosive power of the thermite. This explosive is what is used for controlled demolitions.
 
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FollowTheWay

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Who cares? Lewinski/Clinton is not the topic under discussion. Please stay on topic.
This demonstrates how superficial the investigation of 9/11 was compared to the witch hunt after the Clintons. New York residents voted for a thorough investigation but were refused by a federal judge.
 

FollowTheWay

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Back to this topic. I have an overhead crane at my plant that was built in 1946. It is rated at 12.5 tons. It is built heavier than a modern 25 ton crane I also have. Many years ago, the inspection engineer said, "I bet this crane will pass a 30 ton load test." I said "whatever." I did not know he was going to do one. Later that day he said "that old crane passed the 30 ton load test with less flex than a modern 30 ton crane. He asked of I wanted him to do the paperwork to make it a 25 ton crane. I said "no, I have a 25 ton crane."
So you're claiming that structural engineering hasn't progressed since 1929?
 

Covenanter

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Was $15 million adequate to research such a massive attack on the USA? Especially when trillions are being wasted on endless wars resulting from acknowledged FALSE conclusions.

Off topic.
Truth is ON TOPIC.
I understand that there was an immediate assumption by the POTUS that bin Laden/al Qaeda were guilty of the attack. Therefore only a cursory inquiry was necessary & POTUS could get on with the objective of destroying Afghanistan & Iraq.

A proper adequately funded inquiry would have sought answers to the many questions raised in this thread - including:
why was the debris exported rather than retain for analysis?
why did ATC fail completely;
why did the security systems allow armed Arabs to fly?
etc

Some Islamic organisations may have expressed approval of the 9/11 attacks but this does not amount to an admission of responsibility - ISIS claim involvement in every terrorist attack, & who can refute the claim? It's no justification for destroying every country where ISIS operates.
 

TCassidy

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Follow the Way, nice picture. Unfortunately it doesn't show any molten steel. All it shows is some very un-molten steel being picked by the rig.
 

HankD

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I watched the video...

1) I saw no molten steel only the recollection of "eye witness" accounts.

2) Even at that what materials were privately contained in the buildings which could have caused steel to soften?

HankD
 

FollowTheWay

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I watched the video...

1) I saw no molten steel only the recollection of "eye witness" accounts.

2) Even at that what materials were privately contained in the buildings which could have caused steel to soften?

HankD
These are structural engineering professors and experts. Show me similar experts saying there was no molten steel underneath ground zero.
 

FollowTheWay

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CIA Asset Susan Lindauer Whistleblower Jailed/Disappeared Via Patriot Act As Terrorist; Reveals Coverup Around 9/11, Iraq War, Etc.

US ATTORNEY GENERAL WANTED TO DETAIN SUSAN FOR TEN YEARS WITH NO HEARING, NO TRIAL, AND FORCIBLY DRUG HER INTO A CHEMICAL LOBOTOMY
She was held under indictment for five years. The people going after her wanted to forcibly drug her with 3 very powerful drugs to incapacitate her and make her unable to talk or think clearly enough to say anything to anyone.

A Green Road Journal: CIA Asset Susan Lindauer Whistleblower Jailed/Disappeared Via Patriot Act As Terrorist; Reveals Coverup Around 9/11, Iraq War, Etc.

The CIA tried to kill her but she finally was able to get released from prison where she was incarcerated because of her knowledge about 9/11 and the cause of the Iraq War.
 
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