Featured What's the AUTHORITY for an English Bible?

I am confused as to where you are going with this conversation. Are you suggesting we should follow the Muslim's lead and only publish the Bible in its ancient Hebrew and Greek and force people to learn to read it in its original languages?

Unless, of course, speaking in tongues is the only other option on the table?

 

I wondered why I read 2 Tim 2:14 this morning.

 

That's the case with 90% of BB threads (except mine and yours, of course )

 

There are many who do.

 

It's honestly very difficult for me to debate against KJVO folks because I can't help thinking that they are pulling my leg. I keep waiting for them to say that they are kidding. It is so far fetched an idea that it should not have to be debated.

 

Besides what others have already posted, I believe Paul covered the issue some when he said he'd rather speak one word which his listeners understood than a thousand in a language they didn't know.

I believe the authority for Bible translations is a gimme from God as He told His disciples to preach the Gospel all over the world, and He knows, of course, there are thousands of languages & dialects used by men in various places.

 

if it isn't simply PREFERENCE, they're wrong.

Ever heard of "pastor" Steven Anderson? He claims to worship the KJV.

Ever heard of the late Dr. Peter Sturgis Ruckman?

And I know umpteen hundred people who believeGod has preserved His word in quite a few English Bible versions for hundreds of years, and who believe He keeps His word updated in English as He causes/allows the language to change. And the same is true for many other languages.

Either you haven't read all the posts in the "Translations" sub-forum, or you "interpret" them differently than most of us do. Several KJVOs have desperately tried to push their false KJVO doctrine in many threads on this site.

It IS an issue, used to heap aspersions and to cast doubt on several perfectly-legitimate English Bible versions. It's been such an issue here that former Admin. "Dr. Bob" issued a special statement for all members concerning the KJVO myth.

We receive radio broadcasts here of Pastor Jeff Fugate's sermons from Clays Mill Rd. baptist church, Lexington, KY. & while he's a very good preacher, he often hawks the KJVO myth at least for a little bit in his sermons. And he's far from being the only one.

TRUTH is, without any AUTHORITY, the KJVO position is a myth, and FALSE. No getting by that big ole bear of a FACT!

 

Of course they are, and they have no evidence otherwise.

 

Question: If God gave the English-speaking world an inspired translation, did He also give an inspired translation to the people of the world speaking other languages? If so, where is it? If not, why not?

 

Question: Why would the KJ translators use margin notes with alternate translation possibilities and variant manuscript readings??? I mean, accord to KJVO, God, through devine providence, was preserving His Word. Are there many versions of His Word in the KJV>

 

Heard of him, yes. I do not know him nor do I wish to know him. If he worships the KJV, that is but one more thing that I can add to my list of reasons for staying very far from him.

Again, heard of, yes - I didn't know him personally. He, in my opinion, went way too far down the right road.

Therein lies the root of the problem. These "quite a few" English Bible versions are not translated from the same textual basis. Both lines cannot be preserved because they disagree a staggering number of times.

Honestly, I haven't read a lot in that forum. I used to moderate in there for years and helped develop the posting guidelines for that forum because the debates were getting very heated.

There have been several aspersions heaped on the KJV as well, I have heard it called a "tired old version," etc. The sad part is, the disposition of many KJV defenders (the two you mentioned above and others) have caused many people to turn their backs on the KJV.

Bro. Fugate is a personal friend. I, personally, have never heard him speak on the issue.

Honest question - can you see how the KJVO have arrived at their conclusion, even though you disagree with it? If so, would you mind to state the KJVO position as you understand it?

 

By Authority , you seem to infer "Authorized Version" written of the KJV which is man's authority and financial backing ,
Like an Royal approval. Remember there we other English versions in use that did not have approval from the establishment,
That is why Tyndale had to be replaced in the establishments mind.

God has not authorized any translation but we know He can provide translators led by the Holy Spirit to do their jobs accordingly.

No translation is inspired but may present the scriptures accurately, or maybe not. We know God does protect His word as men try to change it.

 

I miss the joke, Is this today's translations, autographs of the writer, editor. ?

 

Got it, I agree.

I was thinking a Scofield signing a Scofield reference Bible