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“Be Not Deceived”

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by NetChaplain, Mar 15, 2018.

  1. NetChaplain

    NetChaplain Well-Known Member
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    I believe some Christians think they have nearness to the Lord and spiritual rest who very little understand either the one or the other. It is quite possible for a soul to rest satisfied with a certain quietude, and to be in a certain degree devoted and devotional, who is not near the Lord in glory. It is quite possible for a believer to go on in great darkness with a good conscience, their good works and good reputation stand them in good stead, and they go on without exercise, save now and again they are distressed when thy have fallen below their own standard.

    The conscience is no criterion unless it is daily enlightened by the Word of God. The power and wonders of God never touch you like the “still small voice” of the Word. Your feet are washed by His words to your soul, and the soul that trembles at His Word is the one that is really near Him, walking in “the fear of the Lord, which is the beginning of wisdom.”

    You will always find that there is more reverence and fear of the Lord in a soul that is walking near Him than in one who feels less the evil within and without, and therefore assumes to be happy and in a place of nearness and rest which in truth he is not.* Reverence and value for the Word of God is an external test as to whether one is walking close to Him. The Word is regarded not merely as a marvelous revelation, but in relation to himself individually. Not a word does he quote of it that does not send its ring to his soul of its quality and metal—if he is nigh to the Lord.

    There is also an internal test, if I may say so. If you tell me what your soul is occupied with I can tell you where you are, and I believe every person is often very well satisfied with himself for a good long prayer (don’t smile, we have hearts often deceitful); again for visiting a needy one; and again, because we have acquitted ourselves to the approbation of others. A still more insidious condition is that of occupation with our own failures. How often does one think of his state because he has raked up its evil (and even that is only the kind he feels most)! True, most true, you must see the evil when entering into the light; but you cannot enjoy the Lord until the clouds have been removed by His Word declaring His grace to the owning soul.

    I have mentioned what would prove that the soul was not near the Lord. I must just add that the one great expressive mark that a soul is nigh the Lord is that he is receiving light and instruction from Him. You may find Christians very good and proper who are really thinking more of themselves than of the Lord Jesus, who is their Life, exacting love and consideration instead of truly being in the fear of the Lord laboring to confer it. Whenever a soul makes itself the object, the Lord is distant from it.

    - J B Stoney





    Poster’s Opinion:

    * “which in truth he is not”: Not that there isn’t a desire for nearness, but that nearness to the Lord cannot be well known until the awareness of the sinful nature in us is sufficiently realized. I believe the more aware the saints are of the ongoing presence and the decadent levels of the “old man” within, the more we will understand the holiness of God; and the more we will come to understand our forgiveness in the dependence on Christ’s expiation—and the “acceptance” of our Father (Eph 1:6).




    Excerpt from MJS devotional for March 14:

    “The true value of anything is known only when it is wanted. For this reason bright days must be succeeded by dark ones. In the dreary and desolate hour to nature, we begin to know the value of the truth communicated to us in the bright day. The learning is at one time, and the proving at another. In fact, we ought to be prepared for the dark hour; so that, though it be dark, there is something so blessed, so suited, pouring its comfort and sustenance on our souls, that, after all, the dark and dreary hour becomes a more really festive time to the heart, because of the virtues of the truth now made known, than the time of its reception, which was so happy and exhilarating." -J.B.S.
    http://www.abideabove.com/hungry-heart/
     
  2. BobRyan

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    Part of that "nearness" is the Word of God "dwelling in you" John 15.

    So then the phrase "Be not deceived" -- where do we find it in the New Testament?

    1 Cor 6
    7 Actually, then, it is already a defeat for you, that you have lawsuits with one another. Why not rather be wronged? Why not rather be defrauded? 8 On the contrary, you yourselves wrong and defraud. You do this even to your brethren.
    9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.

    1 John 3
    4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
    5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
    6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
    7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
    8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
    9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

    On a "be not deceived" thread - the places where we find that phrase in scripture - would be nice to have.
     
  3. NetChaplain

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    Hi BR, and I always appreciate your replies! The author is using it as a general reference to the believer to be aware of how self-deceiving our hearts can be (as shown in the content). My take on this article is that though we have a nature after Christ's image implanted in us (Col 3:19), and that we still also retain in us the sinful nature, I believe we are to "walk circumspectly" (Eph 5:15) of it more than all things, it being the closest opposition to us, which the Spirit of God also opposes (Gal 5:17).

    The article shows that the more we deny the exercises of the old man, the closer we can be in our drawing "nigh to God" (Jam 4:8).

    God's blessings to you!

    Resting Above
     
  4. BobRyan

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    Yes - I agree that the article is making some very good points and is a blessing to the reader. But since that particular phrase "be not deceived" is in the title - it reminded me of just a few of the examples in the NT where we find it or something almost like it.

    in Christ,

    Bob
     
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    I understand and it makes sense. Thanks for your comment.
     
  6. One Baptism

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    Just adding to the thought, the "Be not deceived", reminded me of the Babylonian [religious humanisitic world] punishment [correcting rod] sent by God, for disobedient and unrepentant Israel, who was separated from the LORD, by sin [transgression of God's character and law, Exodus 20:1-17 KJB] and were relying upon the strength/arm of Egypt [representing the secular humanistic world], when Egypt would be as a broken reed [a poor crutch to lean upon], which would tear the arm of Israel, causing them to fall further [all repeated in the end times, even now, as seen in Daniel 11:40-45; Ezekiel 18-40; etc KJB, and thus all earthly support would be cut off, they would have to then rely upon God or perish]

    Jeremiah 37:9 KJB - Thus saith the LORD; Deceive not yourselves, saying, The Chaldeans shall surely depart from us: for they shall not depart.​
     
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