Did Jesus preach to spirits in Paradise?

take the quote from Jude for example, where we read that "Enoch...prophesied, saying..." (verse 14). It does not say, "it is written", so as to quote from the so called book of Enoch, but rather words that the Holy Spirit gave Jude directly.

 

This seems to be the most sensible interpretation, and it also keeps us from vain speculations about things we are not told and cannot possibly know. What we are told (2 Peter 2:15) is that God did not spare the ancient world, and that Noah was a 'preacher of righteousness.' Christ was preaching through him to his contemporaries, urging them to repent, which, of course, they did not do.

 

where exactly do you get any second chance from? the Bible is very clear, that after death is judgement (Hebrews 9:27), which means that there is no hope of any further "chance" to hear the Gospel. The whole idea of any "second chance", is a mockery to the whole Gospel Message. Consider this, sinners who don't give a hoot about the Lord while the live, and commit every sin against Him, and do not even believe in a real heaven and hell. After they die, they are told if they did not now repent, they would end up in eternal punishment. With that offer, WHO would then still refuse?

 

But, what you are saying here is only speculation, as you still have to show how the words, "preached unto the spirits in prison", can refer to Noah?

 

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Well it would be the immediate context, wouldn't it? '.....By whom also He went and preached to the spirits [who are now] in prison, who formerly were disobedient when once the Divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah........'

These spirits were those who would not enter the ark under the preaching of Noah, and are now held awaiting final judgement.

 

For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; 2 Peter 2:4,5

By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.1 Peter 3:19,20

Could those, in bold, be who were preached to, by Spirit the God?

 

this is the correct understanding.

 

Yes, when Jesus died, he went to the "heart of the earth", paradise etc and preached to "believers" who had been disobedient "while the ark was a preparing". I believe that two of these individuals were Lamech and Methuselah.who both had been alive during that period(while the ark was being built). No need to preach to the damned or any "angels" And the "sons of God", in Genesis 6, were believers who were named in Genesis 5. Their disobedience involved "eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage" aka "taking wives of all". They were not fallen angels.

 

you have completely misread this passage. Firstly, it says "in the days of Noah", which means, "when Noah lived", and nothing to do with Noah being in any "prison". Secondly, it clearly says it is Jesus Who is the One Who "proclaimed" to these "spirits", and noting about Noah "preaching"

 

nothing more than "speculative theology", and a completely non-biblical teaching giving a completely FALSE hope.

 

HAHA. the "sons of God = angels" stuff is unbiblical. No false hope involved in my post.. Methuselah and Lamech were already "sons of God" aka believers before they died and are listed as ancestors in the lineage of Christ.

 

There are some on here who seem to believe in a very non-biblical and very dangerous teaching of post-death salvation. This is a damnable heresy from the enemy, which is giving people a false hope into a false belief and security, that after humans die, they might get a "second chance" to hear the Gospel of salvation, and get themselves saved. This is a LIE from the devil himself, and must be rejected as such. I will give some reasons from the Word of God, which I hope will shed some light on this subject.

Firstly, Hebrews 9:27 says very clearly, "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment". Our English word "once" here is from the Greek adverb, ἅπαξ, which means, "once only, once for all". Death comes to all humans once and for all time, and thereafter, "judgement", no "second chance", or "reincarnation", or anything else. This verse is quite final.

Secondly, in 2 Corinthians 6:2, the Apostle Paul says, "For he says, I have heard you in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I helped you: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation". Note the use of the Greek adverb, "νῦν" twice here, "at the present time, NOW". Not later, as the emphasis in on the PRESENT time for one's salvation, nothing of any after death hope.

Thirdly, Jesus give an account in Luke 16, verses 19-31, about The Rich Man and Lazarus. It is very clear from this, that even after death, though the rich man could see Lazarus as blessed, and himself as being tormented, there is nothing said about any after death "offer" for him to be saved. In fact, he pleads that someone be sent to his house, to warn his family about the terrors of hell, that they do not end up there. If there were any hope of a "second chance", then surely Jesus would have told us this in this account, that deals with the after death experiences of the saved and unsaved. There is a "gulf fixed", and no one can change their place after death, is what Jesus here means. There is no "crossing over" from Hades, after another "chance" has been offered, and the sinner accepts and then go to heaven. This is no more than wishful thinking.

Fourthly, in 1 Corinthians 15:29, the Apostle Paul says, "Else what shall they do who are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?". This "baptism for (ὑπέρ, instead of) the dead", is thought to be a practice where those who died uncertain of their final destiny, are "baptized" in a living relative on their behalf, in the hope that they could be saved after death. Something quite foreign to the teaching of the Holy Bible, and similar to what some are saying about a "second chance" for the lost after death.

 

you say that believers that were "disobedient" at the time of the Ark being built, have the Gospel preached to them? What do you mean by "disobedient"? Do you mean "unsaved"? Your reasoning is no more than conjecture, and has no fact in Scripture!

 

no more than speculation, as no one knows for sure what Peter means. Take a look at #37

 

look at #37