Did Jesus preach to spirits in Paradise?

what do you get from #13?

 

You're picking a fight for no reason. I agree with you: no one can be saved after death. Yes, believers are disobedient sometimes, a lot of the time actually. Abraham was, Moses was, David was, you and I are as well. And I never said Jesus preached "the gospel" to "the spirits in prison". The Bible simply says he "preached" to them. Not all "preaching" is about salvation.

 

I am not picking any fight with anyone. There is just too much nonsense being posted on this subject which some are deluded into believing to be true. We must stick to the Teachings of Scripture as a whole, and not try to build "theology" from some uncertain verses. I don't mean this of you.

 

is this "repenting" from their sins, in order they get saved? what of my comments at #37?

 

The actual text in 1 Peter does not say or even suggest that Jesus was "preaching" through Noah, this is mere speculation on the passage, and there are other "theories" on this as well!

Show me where it says this

"For Christ also has once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but made alive by the Spirit: In whom also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; Who formerly were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, by which a few, that is, eight souls were saved through water."

 

No, a second chance for the wicked is exactly what I am denying.

 

for no one. not even for "good" people, no one!

 

There are no 'good' people (Mark 10:18).

 

post 37 does not address the text...TC and Martin have given the biblical answer...all others posts are not helpful here.

 

says you, who finds everything "funny"!!!

 

what do you think Jesus meant by, "Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad" (John 8:56)? Do you believe that The Angel (Messenger) of the Lord, in the OT was the Lord Jesus Christ? See the account of the burning bush in Exodus chapter 3, you will see that The Angel of the Lord" was in the bush Who spoke to Moses, and said, "I am the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob", and also is known as "Yahweh", who is the Speaker of the words in verse 14, "I am Who I am", or as the LXX Greek versions has it, "I am the eternal One".

you say, "I believe preaching to those righteous people in Paradise", for what purpose? based on what Bible texts? You are simply guessing...

 

That is why the termed preached might be misleading anyone who wants to find a second chance to get saved here, as Jesus was speaking about those during the flood times, but also proclaiming that he was the risen Lord, as he took the OT saints back with him up to Heaven at his ascension.

 

Those who are lost are to be judged after they die, as what one does with jesus in this life is what will count in the judgement by God.

 

do you like "speculation theology"? If the Bible does not clearly tell us something, then we are not meant to know. There is no point in trying to guess what is what. Keep Deuteronomy 29:29 in mind

 

Possibly. But, their fate was already sealed, by faith, before their deaths. Even today, while we have the complete Word of God, many born-again Christians don't know everything there is to know about the very character of Christ; otherwise we would have so many opinions about Him, or about how salvation works. I'm sure the "spirits in prison's" knowledge before death was rudimentary, at best, because Christ had not yet come in their lifetimes and because they did not have the complete word of God.