The Beast Revelation

[ephraim]

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[ephraim]

Does anyone have another prophecy they would like to post? If so, post it here in this thread.

 

[kyredneck]

Historicist.

The seven heads of the beast represent Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome, and the Holy Roman Empire, five of these seven heads of the beast coincides with the beasts of Daniel. I've no doubt (actually the bible confirms much of it) that in each epoch there was great tribulation, persecution, apostasy, famine, war, escape, victory for the saints, etc., all with the source being the enmity between the serpent and the woman (Gen 3:15;Rev 12).

9 That which hath been is that which shall be; and that which hath been done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
10 Is there a thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been long ago, in the ages which were before us. Ecc 1

History runs in spirals, names faces places change, yet the same old conflict keeps occurring over and over again.

...all jmho of course...

 

[OldRegular]

The Beast Out of the Sea, The First Beast

The Apostle John writes:

Revelation 13:1-10, KJV
1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as [the feet] of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who [is] like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty [and] two months.
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.
10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

The sea out of which the beast is said to rise should not be understood as a body of water, rather it represents the mass of fallen humanity or the nations and their governments [Revelation 17:15]. Though this first beast rises out of the world system it receives its power from the dragon, Satan; yet Satan’s power is limited by God.

The beast that John sees is reminiscent of the four beasts of the prophet Daniel’s vision [Daniel 7], in fact is a composite of those four beasts which represented Babylon, Persia, Greece, and Rome. The mouth of the beast in the vision of John was as the mouth of a lion from the first beast of Daniel’s vision, Babylon; its feet were as the feet of a bear from the second beast, Persia; it was like a leopard as the third beast, Greece; and it had ten horns like the fourth beast, Rome. It was revealed to Daniel that during the time of the fourth beast God would establish His Kingdom, an everlasting Kingdom which would eventually consume all other kingdoms [Daniel 2:44; Daniel 7:13,14; 1 Corinthians 15:24-28]. Yet this fourth beast would persecute the Saints of the Kingdom until the Ancient of Days, God, intervened [Daniel 7:21,22]. The length of that persecution was time, times, and the dividing of time [Daniel 7:25] symbolizing three and one half years. This is the same time span that the holy city is to be trodden underfoot by the nations [Revelation 11:2], it is the length of time the two witnesses are to prophesy [Revelation 11.3], it is the length of time the woman, the Church, will be in the wilderness [Revelation 12.6], and it is the period of time that the first beast of John’s vision was given power [Revelation 13.5]. This time period is the time between the first and second advents of Jesus Christ .

The prophecy recorded by Daniel regarding the establishment of the Kingdom of God was fulfilled with the coming of Jesus Christ. The prophecy regarding the persecution of the Saints by Rome and the ultimate judgment of Imperial Rome by God was also fulfilled. However, the time of the first beast is forty two months and the persecution of the Saints of God continues and will continue until the coming of Jesus Christ in the power and glory of the Triune God.

Scripture has told us that the beast represents or is an agent of that old dragon, Satan, but who is he, in what form is he manifested? Mankind and the social structures that mankind has developed have, by and large, always been opposed to their accountability before the sovereign God, Lord and creator of the universe. This first beast, therefore, represents those groups or organizations of the world’s political, social, or economic structure that are in opposition, either overtly or covertly, to God and His rule. That this is true is shown by the association of the beast with the four seen by the prophet Daniel and the identification of those four beasts with empires that persecuted the people of God. Both the Bible and secular world history shows that Satan has never lacked those willing to fall down before him.

Herman Hoeksema, page 457 of Behold He Comrth, gives the following plausible rationale for Satan's use of the beasts:

You see the devil is a spirit; and as such he cannot establish an earthly throne in person. He must have some human agent or agents who will take the position. He wants to establish a world-kingdom. But he cannot rule over the world in person. He must have human beings, or a human being to be his vice-regent.

The description of this first beast, obviously symbolic, is grotesque and fearsome and deliberately so. It epitomizes the evil of the dragon, Satan. Perhaps the most striking feature of the beast is its head or heads for the description reads having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. The power and purpose of the beast, yet its subservience to the dragon, can perhaps best be illustrated by noting that the seven heads of the dragon carried crowns in contrast to the beast whose horns carried crowns.

 

[ephraim]

Time is running out.

 

[OfLivingWaters]

The Beast Revelation
This letter is dedicated to all Christians.

The following letter is a summary of Revelation 13. Its purpose is to show the method used in finding the conclusions which have been stated. Nothing new has been added from my previous letters. It is more of a compilation of them all. This writing is the same material in different words. The Bible uses this same method of explanation. There are four Gospels. In each you see a different view of the same material. This can be beneficial because the meaning becomes more exact. Although, if this is a first time reader, then this will all be news to you. With that in mind, here we go.

The first thing that should be addressed when doing any study of Bible prophecy is what questions do I intend to answer. Some of these questions can seem a little simplistic, but their answers are much more complicated. In my studies there were only a few questions that I saw as needing an answer. My questions were very simple. First, who is this individual who is identified by the number 666? Second, who is the false prophet and how does he make the whole world worship the beast whose number is 666. Another question has to do with these same individuals. Could these two individuals be the same person, or for that matter Satan himself? Where is Satan during all this? That last question is very important. It actually goes straight to the answer of all the questions. Finally, when would someone expect to see these individuals on the Earth? Literally, what time frame should I see them? Those are the questions. The answers are much more involved.


This narrative will attempt to show how the answers are figured out. These answers can be seen from events that happen in the nightly news. This leads me to a key, which most of us know, but most of us forget. The Bible is a history book. Some events have happened, while some are waiting to happen. It is the ones that have not happened that we are most concerned with. Here is another key. By the way, these keys I speak of are keys to understanding. The Lord spoke in parables. The reason he gave was that it was for some to know the mysteries of God, while it was for some to know not. In hearing, they do not hear. In seeing, they do not see. I compare it to telling the truth, while hiding it at the same time. Many of the parables that the Lord spoke he immediately gave an answer to. He showed how he used certain symbols and words to describe subjects and then gave their meanings. Now for the punch line. The Lord also spoke in parables that he did not identify. These parables go straight to the hidden meaning of these end times. Another key is word substitution. An example of this is a pretty well-known item from Revelation. This word substitution deals with Revelation 13:1. The beast has seven heads and ten horns. In Revelation 17 those heads and horns are defined. The heads are identified as mountains, while the horns are identified as kings. This changes the whole picture of what the beast is symbolically to what it is literally. Now Rev.13:1 can be read as follows with just the items discussed thus far. And I saw a beast rise up out of the sea having seven mountains and ten kings. That is a simple and easy word substitution. Know that this will happen many times throughout the Bible.


Now, getting back to the questions. The question is, where is Satan? If this question can be answered, you will have eliminated some others. Some prophecy teachers believe that Satan is the beast, or that Satan is the false prophet, which is misleading and puts a stumbling block square in the road to a proper interpretation. I almost always get this question. How can you know who the beast is when he cannot be revealed? 2nd Thess. Chapter 2 states that he cannot be revealed, until something is removed first. Most scholars have this part right. That is a picture of the Rapture. What they have wrong is that Satan and the beast are not the same individual. Satan cannot be revealed until after the rapture, but he is not the beast. Therefore, I can identify the beast and his false prophet. People say prove it. So I did. I told them how to understand using the keys that I have mentioned. Revelation 13 is a parable, but God is not giving the definition, or the explanation. This one is for us to figure out. Ok, so where is Satan? In the book of Job, we get a view of Satan's abilities. In one scene, he is discussing with God about Job. Question, where is God? He is in heaven. Also, in his conversation with God Satan is talking as if he knows and has seen Job. God declares that he can do whatever he wants to Job, but he was not allowed to kill him. Now we know something else about Satan. He also has access to the Earth, and can affect peoples lives. So, it appears that Satan can be everywhere he wants to be, on Earth or in heaven. We know Satan and his angels will be cast out of heaven as per Revelation 12. This would further the idea that he is now in heaven. We also see Satan one other time, when he tempted Christ during his time on Earth. It says that he was taken to the wilderness to be tempted of Satan? Most people, and rightly so, have thought the wilderness to be a place on Earth, but this is a parable I believe. The Lord was in the wilderness and was tempted by Satan, but the wilderness is in heaven. This parable is read in Isaiah 35. It is the wilderness and the solitary place where the redeemed of the Lord walk. So, this last item being the most hard to prove, suffice it to say, that when Rev.12 says Satan will be cast out, he must be there in heaven to be cast out. Alright, now we can answer a couple questions. One, Satan is himself, and he is in heaven. Therefore, he is not the beast or the false prophet. These three work together, but each has his own identity.


Now to dissect Revelation 13. As I have already stated, Revelation 13 is a word substitution parable. The seven heads are seven mountains and the ten horns are ten kings. Ok, we know from this description that the beast as described is a group of possibly ten countries. This brings me to another point. There are three definitions for the beast in Revelation 13. The first is a group of countries rising up out of the sea. The second is in Rev.13:11 and is a beast with two horns (kings). Remember horns are kings as per Rev. 17. Finally, there is a beast who is identified by the number 666. It is this last beast that causes all to recieve a mark and that no man can buy and sell save he who has the mark, his number, or his name. There are three items here. Nowhere does it say that the mark is the number 666. This might have been a good guess 20 yrs. ago , but it is pretty hard to believe. Imagine people running around with a mark of 666 on their right hands. It sounds like a cartoon, but this is what the prophecy teachers want you to believe. Ok, another problem that sounds like a cartoon is the interpretation of the word "all." They want you to believe that no man could buy or sell if they did not worship the beast and take his mark. Interpreting the word "all" to mean everyone in the world. This is not the case. For one, we know that the beast is made up of only possibly ten countries. Everyone in this world lives in roughly 190 countries. I don't think we could possibly mean everyone. How about, all of those people concerned with the mark. Also, how do you cause all people concerned to receive a mark, and why? The most obvious way to mark everyone is at the voting booth. All people, rich and poor, small and great, or free and bond are potential voters. So, Mahmoud Abbas was elected president of the Palestinian Authority, and in the process all voters received an indelible ink mark on their right hands. This mark was to prevent double voting and corruption in the election. Ok, we have a mark. It is not 666. At this point he fits the part, but not completely. Still, there is no ready identification of 666 concerning him. This election was in January 2005.

666 Hmm? I will address this part of your post.

 

[OfLivingWaters]

I am not going to address anything other than the 666 issue. First of all in scripture it says it is a number of a man, Christ was
flesh not that he was flesh first....... but that by Spirit He became flesh through Incarnation, He therefore only had 23 chromo-
somes man has 46, 23 from each parent. That is why the image of the beast is the image of a man. Man's DNA consist of at-
oms and each atom is made up of 6 protons,6electrons, and 6neutrons. Christ's DNA would not have a father seed, like typical
man. He would have had Spirit attached to His DNA making Him a perfect Human of Divine origin. The Man of Sin is con-
ceived by natural conception and will have beast seed attached to his 6 protons, 6 electrons and 6 neutrons, this will make him
a Nephilim offspring, not Holy Spirit. The image of the beast is the Image of the Coat of Arms of the Family from which the
beast gave his own power , authority and throne to. They will administer to man the mark=marker. I will not disclose who that
is. From this lineage will come the Man of Sin who has not been revealed yet , but will ......once satan is cast out from before
the gates of heaven Rev12:12. During great stress and calamity he will be revealed. Michael the Arch Angel is at present re-
straining his revealing. As soon as the restrainer is removed he will be revealed. The mark given to man will infiltrate man's

DNA and attach to the 6 proton's, 6electrons and 6 neutrons of man's atoms which make up DNA MARKERS. This will ren-
der man ,not man- but like a beast.

Satan has been trying to get man to believe in Evolution and those who believe that they are evolved from primates- of animal
anyway, they will receive the mark. Christian's are made in the Image of the Son of Man, who is God Incarnate. Fallen angel
knowledge is used to develop this technology and it is already in existence. "As in the days of Noah so shall it be in the
days=(end of the age) of the coming of the SON OF MAN". Those who receive the MARK IN THE FLESH, will have a DNA
marker added to their strain not naturally present in man, making him a beast, it is of animal the marker. The story of Jacob
and Esau is the mystery concerning this. The Holy Spirit will not be able to dwell in this beast image man.

So, satan who decided to deceived Eve in the form of a serpent will at the end of the age dwell in a man who will have a DNA
marker making him a beast, I would say a befitting ending to him who used an animal as a means of the first of deception.



They will use the need for commodities, food water , housing ex....... to get people to take the mark. They will not allow any-
one to buy or sell unless they worship the image of the beast and the image of its name. This is what is coming down the pike,
a broad road with a hefty toll! Many will receive this mark. Fellow Christians, wait and attain to the 1,335, days of Daniel.
Trust in the Lord no matter what you are confronted with and Arch Angel Michael will protect you, and you will be blessed!

 

[OfLivingWaters]

That is to say, the carbon atom is made up of 6protons, 6electrons , and 6 neutrons. I left out the word Carbon in my above post. Carbon is a bond and it is to this science is able to attach anything to a human DNA sequence. It is adding a mark to existing markers. My bad.

 

[kyredneck]

the carbon atom is made up of 6protons, 6electrons , and 6 neutrons

GLORY HALLELUJAH ! MYSTERY SOLVED !

 

[OfLivingWaters]

GLORY HALLELUJAH ! MYSTERY SOLVED !

God Bless you and may you always remain under God's providence.

 

[OfLivingWaters]

Is what I am saying far fetched ?The offspring of the fallen watchers began defiling themselves with animals. The book of Jasher says:

4:18 And their judges and rulers went to the daughters of men and took their wives by force from their husbands according to their choice and the sons of men in those days took from the cattle of the earth the beasts of the field and the fowls of the air and taught the mixture of animals of one species with the other in order therewith to provoke the Lord; and God saw the whole earth and it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted its ways upon earth, all men and all animals.



The Book of Enoch also supports this record, saying that after the fallen angels merged their DNA with women, they, "began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish" (7:5,6)

The Old Testament contains associated reference to genetic mutations, which developed among humans following this activity, including unusual size, physical strength, six fingers, six toes, animal appetite for blood and even lion-like features among men (2 Sam 21:20; 23:20).

The same method used in animals is the same application to human genes.

You can't make this stuff up!

Preceding Generations Forgotten Ecclesiastes 1:8-10

…8All things are wearisome; Man is not able to tell it. The eye is not satisfied with seeing, Nor is the ear filled with hearing. 9That which has been is that which will be, And that which has been done is that which will be done. So there is nothing new under the sun. 10Is there anything of which one might say, "See this, it is new "? Already it has existed for ages Which were before us.…

Through science's fallen angel knowledge they have developed an application which can be placed in the flesh through the hand or forehead.