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Which churches are growing?

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Reynolds

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Yet they have a very optimistic view of human nature! Contrast them to the Calvinist for example—these people at their very heart believe that humans are endlessly depraved (and there is some truth to that) but Catholics don’t start there... they start with Genesis 1:10. They get to original sin afterwards.
Ok, I disagree with Calvinists on what I consider a secondary doctrine. I disagree with Catholics on several primary doctrines. Huge difference in my mind.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Ok, I disagree with Calvinists on what I consider a secondary doctrine. I disagree with Catholics on several primary doctrines. Huge difference in my mind.
However they are by far the largest representative church for Christianity in the entire world.
 

Yeshua1

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Yet they have a very optimistic view of human nature! Contrast them to the Calvinist for example—these people at their very heart believe that humans are endlessly depraved (and there is some truth to that) but Catholics don’t start there... they start with Genesis 1:10. They get to original sin afterwards.
God has a very pessimistic view of human nature, and i trust His viewpoint over theirs!
Jeremiah 17:9
 

Yeshua1

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Ok, I disagree with Calvinists on what I consider a secondary doctrine. I disagree with Catholics on several primary doctrines. Huge difference in my mind.
We agree that God freely justifies a lost sinner on the basis of the Cross of Christ, and that is immanently effective towards the saved by Grace alone, and faith alone. Rome totally disagrees with that position, and so denies the very heart of Christianity in regards to salvation!
 

Yeshua1

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God made humans so why would you think he is pessimistic? Really Yeshua, you make God sound weak.
He knows just how vile and corrupted the fall made all of us!
Jesus did not look down and see just a big bunch of good people to deserved him to die for them, no, He saw a group of hell bound sinners who would be yelling "crucify Him", and yet still died in their stead!
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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There are saved persons in it, but the Church of Rome is NOT teaching true Christianity, so would be worlds biggest Bible cult!
Then why are they the biggest Christian church... apparently God allows this.

Let me ask you, what is the greatest commandment... let me help you Matthew 22:37-40
 

Yeshua1

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Then why are they the biggest Christian church... apparently God allows this.

Let me ask you, what is the greatest commandment... let me help you Matthew 22:37-40
What saves a lost sinner, Rome has the wrong answer!
They are biggest in number, but not in how many are really saved!
 

Reynolds

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We agree that God freely justifies a lost sinner on the basis of the Cross of Christ, and that is immanently effective towards the saved by Grace alone, and faith alone. Rome totally disagrees with that position, and so denies the very heart of Christianity in regards to salvation!
Yes, The entire salvation process in the R.C.C. is apostate and riddled with heresy.
 

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We agree that God freely justifies a lost sinner on the basis of the Cross of Christ, and that is immanently effective towards the saved by Grace alone, and faith alone. Rome totally disagrees with that position, and so denies the very heart of Christianity in regards to salvation!

This Methodist replies that the Catholic church has a more accurate grasp of biblical teaching about salvation than most Baptists. Stay tuned for my upcoming post "The Biblical Basis for Some Catholic Distinctives."
 

Yeshua1

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This Methodist replies that the Catholic church has a more accurate grasp of biblical teaching about salvation than most Baptists. Stay tuned for my upcoming post "The Biblical Basis for Some Catholic Distinctives."
You will not find those in the scriptures as regards to their views on salvation though!
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Yes, The entire salvation process in the R.C.C. is apostate and riddled with heresy.
And so explain it to me and then point out the heresy and then justify your own beliefs.
As far as I’m conserned, anyone claiming their belief in Christ as lord and savior is saved.
 

Yeshua1

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And so explain it to me and then point out the heresy and then justify your own beliefs.
As far as I’m conserned, anyone claiming their belief in Christ as lord and savior is saved.
When you press the Catholic, you will find most hold with their infant Baptism, confirmation, taking the Sacraments etc all were part of salvation, but will not usually place faith alone in jesus saved them!
Its Mother church, Mother mary, additions, as jesus alone is not enough!
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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When you press the Catholic, you will find most hold with their infant Baptism, confirmation, taking the Sacraments etc all were part of salvation, but will not usually place faith alone in jesus saved them!
Its Mother church, Mother mary, additions, as jesus alone is not enough!

Yes, true but certain groups practice contemplative prayer and it’s hard for me to explain it to you since you are so embedded in your own thing . I don’t know, maybe you would have to be born into it.... no, it has to come to you. Have you ever read Martin Lloyd-Jones book “Studies in the Sermon on The Mount.” A friend gave it to me and it took me 16 years to actually read it... there are hard truths that I was ignoring. I then recommended it to my brother (a pastor) and he had a time going through it. Anyway you will not understanding about Catholism either if you focus on obvious. You need to look at subtle practices you as a Baptist don’t experience. But this isn’t going to happen if you continue to vilify them at every turn.
 
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