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Does Church of Rome Hold the The True Gospel?

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Yeshua1, Jul 30, 2018.

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  1. Walter

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    They ahve decided to go back and join the Apiostate Whore of babylon!
     
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    it ONLY matters what the Bible itself teache son this issue!
     
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    John 6:52 (KJV) The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us [his] flesh to eat?
     
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    Yes, they kept seeing in physical terms what Jesus meant to be spiritual!
     
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    Yes that is a human right assuming its allowed by one's government.

    Its been about 54 years since I separated from my former church.
    FWIW, I am impressed by the some of the advances made by the RCC.
     
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    Too bad they have not had a reformation on their theology!
     
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    They are claiming that Baptist theologians have never challenged transubstantiation but they have. It is a doctrine exclusive to Catholicism, as you know. What's more, the Jews themselves questioned Jesus about cannibalism. So they have a refutation of transubstantiation that is two thousand years old that they do not discuss. Bad hermeneutics!
     
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    Well, that is difficult to discern given that the Jesuits fabricate (for the most part) the "theology" disseminated to the "separated brethren" (I know having been under their tutelage for a couple of years). A phenomena of Orwellian practices (long before his time BTW).

    The best and most truthful source of RC doctrine is found in the Catechisms for children and young people (First Holy Communion through Confirmation).

    And when I say "truthful" in the above sentence, that means - as applied to οἱ πολλοὶ (The masses of humanity) and what they want them to believe.
     
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    I wonder how many of the priests, much less tha Laity, actually knows what Trent taught?
     
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    Oh the priesthood knows as well as Vatican II - very important.

    The laity are for the most part in the dark.
     
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    Funny how the early Bishop's of the Church are in line with Catholic teaching on this. Oops, my mistake, it's the other way around - Catholic teaching of today is in line with what the early Bishop's (Early Church Fathers) believed and taught to the faithful. As being exclusive to Catholicism this is not true as our Eastern Orthodox brethren believe the same thing, except they just call the process a "mystery".

    Yes, the Jews themselves questioned Jesus about eating His body and blood and the Scriptures say they went away from Him.
     
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    No it doesn't, it matters what the proper interpretation of it by those who hold authority in the One Universal Christian Church says on this issue. Your interpretation didn't come about until well after the 16th century.
     
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    Thanks for the correction about the Orthodox. Of course, cannibalism is abhorrent to Jews, and so the language is not literal.
     
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    But of course the Eastern Orthodox do indeed believe in the "Real Presence" of Jesus Christ in the Holy Eucharist just like us Catholics do, this truth has nothing to do with the Jews of biblical times. Th "Real Presence" means the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Jesus Christ exists within the Eucharist. Some cannot accept this reality and that is their loss.
     
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    John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
     
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    The Reformed view on salvation was what Jesus and the Apsotles held with, as the scriptures themselves were where the reformers rediscovered the truths of the real Gospel. They were catholics who taught and held to it, like John Hess, who ended up being burnt at the stake for holding to it. Rome does NOT have supreme authority to interpret the scriptures, as that is the work of the Holy Spirit to each Christian!
     
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    I cannot accept the Mass, as it denies that Jesus death was a once and forever atonement for sins!
     
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    I know that you think that you are drinking blood, etc, but it is still wine poured into the cup and drank by you, etc.
     
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    Wouldn;t the mass fall under Pagan idolatry?
     
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