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  1. SovereignGrace

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    Sanctification is one part of it, though.
     
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    We can agree to disagree. It doesn't show us we don't have the ability...it shows us we have maturing to do.
     
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    Ppl get mixed up when they think God commanding ppl to do something, it automatically means they have the ability to do so. See Acts 17:30.
     
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    It shows us that we have a fallen nature that we give in to at times.
     
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    We can agree :)

    Sorry I called you childish.
     
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    That’s all I am saying my Brother. If we give into our flesh, we sin. If we sin, we are not holy as He is holy. That’s shows us our weakness(es). And if we are weak, we are not able, in and of ourselves, to be holy as He is holy. Our holiness is solely being in Him.
     
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    LOL! "Yes" and "no." LOL!
     
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    You mean because he disagrees with you? That sounds like a pretty good reason to me, especially in view of how wrong you are. :)
     
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    In fairness to him, he did apologize. I gladly accept it.
     
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    Everything I say is Biblical. Please show me a unBiblical statement. I bet it is man's doctrine and not scriptural at .
     
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    God hates satan and the demons!
     
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    NO scriptures states that God is love as you see it as being! He also has Holy Hatred, as per His Holy nature demds it for sin!
     
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    Are we not already pleasing to God, by being in Christ now, regarding of behavior or not?
     
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    I am holy in jesus, but not due to my behavior, but because now vlothed in Him! NONE get to sinless perfection here, as none of the Apostles did, and they were more able to boast on that if they could have!
     
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    Yes for sin but not people. If God hated people who sinned that is in the way that Calvinists insist he would never ever say the following, in Ezekiel 33

    Say to them: ‘As surely as I live, declares the Lord GOD, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that the wicked should turn from their ways and live. Turn! Turn from your evil ways!
     
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    What is the verse? before they sinned, I mean.
    God hates sin.
     
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    Nope he shows special favor towards those who are in Covenant relationship with him. There's a world of difference between favor and love. GOD LOVES all men.
     
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    Does God love cherubims ?
     
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    "Therefore, O thou son of man, speak unto the house of Israel; Thus ye speak, saying, If our transgressions and our sins [be] upon us, and we pine away in them, how should we then live?
    11 Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?" ( Ezekiel 33:10-11 )

    With respect, He's speaking to the house of Israel here, Rockson...not to all men indiscriminately.
    He's pleading with His covenant nation through the prophet, to keep the covenant that they swore to Moses that they would keep.

    God kept His end even though they failed.
    Miserably.
    Just like any of the rest of us would have in their place, and in their circumstances, I would imagine.:(




    Based on what Scriptures?
    Please keep in mind that I am not saying that God is not kind and merciful to all men...but other than John 3:16, which is often used, in my opinion, as a blanket to cover everything else in the Bible with regard to all of mankind, where do you see that God loves all men?

    Please make your case from God's word.

     
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    You said God loves all His creation, including Satan and those who fell with him. That's unbiblical.
     
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