Far more than binding, as all kingdoms will be under jesus direct rule, and sin and evil shall not be allowed to flourish, as they are permitted now by God!
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The Jesuit Origins of Futurism
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1689Dave
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This takes place in the New Heavens and Earth, There is no physical millennium, but Jesus now rules from David's throne over earth from heavenly Jerusalem above.
1689Dave
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Think about it this way:
“He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.” (John 3:36)
Satan is bound from deceiving the elect from around the world (nations). But God uses him to bring wrath on the unbelievers.
Don't be silly. You said that the saints would not rule with Jesus. But Scripture says Revelation 20:4 (KJV) And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
So I believe John.
Yeah, well, Jesus is coming back to earth and He is going to reign with the saints for a thousand years.
Revelation 20:4 (KJV) And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
There is to be no wars/famines/disease in the Messanic Age!
Who was the Beast they refused to worship per preterist than?
I think that it is the Mayor of London, who is presiding over a big crime wave.
1689Dave
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The Messianic Age is in the New Heavens and Earth.
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“and he raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus,” (Ephesians 2:6)
1689Dave
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“But God, being rich in mercy, because of his great love with which he loved us, even though we were dead in transgressions, made us alive together with Christ—by grace you are saved!—and he raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, to demonstrate in the coming ages the surpassing wealth of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.” (Ephesians 2:4–7)
No, really, Scripture says that Jesus is coming back and is going to be on earth and we are going to rule with Him on earth. So I believe Scripture.
1689Dave
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It does not say this in the least. The kingdom is of faith, not of sight.
Revelation 20:4 (KJV) And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
1689Dave
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“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:” (Ephesians 1:3)
“And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:” (Ephesians 2:6)
You just don't want to comment on:
Revelation 20:4 (KJV) And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
The only things that've already happened from the OD are war/rumor of war, persecution of Christians with decapitations, Jerusalem's being trod underfoot by gentiles. None of the ESCHATOLOGICAL events have happened yet.
The LITERAL fulfillment of those events that've already happened shows the rest will be fulfilled JUST-AS-LITERALLY.
MMRRPP ! WRONG!
The millenium is when the kingdom will be physically on earth. Right now, we're CITIZENS-ELECT of that kingdom, same as trump was POTUS-elect from Nov. 2016 til Jan. 2017.
Yes, there WILL be a physical millenium, as Scripture sez, and David's throne is still here on earth. There's NO Scripture saying Jesus took David's throne to heaven with Him when He departed earth. And jesus did NOT occupy it while he was here.
And Jesus is NOT ruling earth from heaven now, as is evidenced by the prevalence of sin & false religion worldwide.\
Dave, you really need to pay closer attention to SCRIPTURE & give no heed to some private interp some dingbat wrote about it. Only SCRIPTURE ITSELF is absolutely-correct.
And neither has yet been made manifest.
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