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Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by John Yurich, Jan 17, 2019.

  1. Adonia

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    I would like to know how the Priest would respond if our friend told him he does not believe in the Catholic teaching on the Holy Eucharist anymore but still presents himself for the reception of it. Our friend is using subterfuge to attend both churches and being a Christian is all about truth, is it not?

    Baptism can only be done once. When my wife came into the Catholic faith tradition there was no need to repeat the procedure - she had been validly baptized already. As regards our friend, of course the priest would not look on his actions favorably.
     
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    I see, so subterfuge is the order of the day for you? You should talk to your priest and explain your spiritual beliefs and current worship practices to him - he might be able to help you. Honesty and truth is the only route for a Christian to take.
     
  3. Yeshua1

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    IF you have trusted in Jesus alone to save you, that salvation is of Him alone, nothing added by water baptism, any sacraments etc, then you would be a confused Christian!
     
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    I think you're a bit confused.
     
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    Joining or leaving any local church has no bearing on being saved or lost.
    One is either saved or lost. Those whom Jesus saves will never perish (John 10:27-28). Peter taught to make sure of one's election (2 Peter 1:10). Paul taught one should makes sure Jesus Christ is in you (2 Corithians 13:5) John wrote that either one has the Son or one does not (1 John 5:12). There is no middle ground on this.

    So my question to you, what would you explain to someone as to how to be sure?
     
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    He really needs to come out of Rome, and embrace the reality of the real life now found in Christ!
     
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    A whole lot of other Christians besides Catholics hold to sacramental grace. But your seething hatred of Catholicism blinds you to that fact! NT Wright who you often quote, also believes it is a concept grounded in scripture. I am much more persuaded by a brilliant theologian like Wright than your declarations to the contrary!
     
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    He needs to stop going to that other sect that only started in the 17th century and re-integrate himself fully into the life of God's Holy Church.
     
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    Well come on then, enlighten me.
     
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    It was one of your own that declared a Catholic cannot be a Christian. I no longer believe salvation is by faith alone. I once believed just like you! My question to you is, now that I believe as scripture clearly states that we are NOT saved by 'faith alone', have I forfeited my salvation?
     
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    I think your belief on Baptism is the least of your problems.

    I think you are trying to reason your way out of a difficult decision. In addition, I think you are trying to come to an online forum to find or to argue for the avoidance of your decision.

    You need to start with either the Baptist pastor or the Catholic priest. Go to one of them and honestly and fully tell at least one of them what its happening and what your troubles are. I'm sure one of them will help you find your path.

    I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that lying by omission is not the path Jesus wants you to follow. I think your following the path of lying by omission is your biggest problem. It may have not been intentional, but you need to face and confront this problem by being fully honest.
     
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    You said it better than me. The phrase "lying by omission" is a good description of our friends actions.
     
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    How can not making someone cognizant of something that is none of their business in the first place considered lying?
     
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    Well, genuine Christianity started in the first century. The false teachings started shortly after (2 Corinthians 11:2-15; Galatians 1:6-7; 1 John 4:1).
     
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    Isn't it good enough that I attend a Baptist Church without ceasing attending Catholic Church?
     
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    I do not see Wright as being very good, as he is often more wrong than "wright "in his theology, and trust instead Jesus and Paul, as they did not hold to any sacramental grace!
     
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    That would be his local Baptist Church!
     
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    Its not a question of good enough, its more that you should obey God, and come out from among those who teach another and false Gospel message!
    Would be the same as if still going to a Mormon temple or Watchtower church.
     
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