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Abortion: Will mankind be accountable?

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  1. righteousdude2

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    I think it is disgusting and America will suffer nuclear war because of it. She will reap what she sows!
     
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    Me thinks Nuclear war is a little heavy, but, "Hey?!" What do I know? Of course, I was thinking of judgement after death! But I appreciate your input and look forward to what others think about your response and their view of the judgment type mankind will face for killing "babies to be!"
     
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    I think judgment is being pronounced already and has been for quite some time.

    We will be judged in the final day as well, but I think God is definitely moving over the land.
     
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    Any Democrat has blood in his hands. Churches and Church members who are too spineless to take political action likewise have blood on their hands.
     
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    Abortion: Will mankind be accountable?

    Yes but on an individual basis.

    Roe v. Wade was forced upon us.
    One morning we woke up and murder has been legalized.

    Not even a referendum. No amendment to the constitution to take away the possibility of life liberty and the pursuit of happiness from the innocents in the womb (and now possibly out of the womb).

    Bottom line - Pray, vote pro-life only, although both major political parties have failed to save over 50 million lives since Roe v. Wade.

    What!? Every president since 1973 has had a Phone and a Pen.

    Pray for congress to flip back and for Trump/Pence (or whoever) in 2020 to RESCIND Roe v. Wade.
     
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    Both parties have failed to reverse the 1973 Roe vs. Wade decision enacted by a Republican Supreme Court. Republicans have certainly had the political power in the 45 YEARS since that decision to reverse it. They have chosen not to do anything about it.

    In fact, the number of abortions per women of child-bearing age (15-44) has declined to a level below that of 1973 before Roe vs. Wade. Two things are thought to have caused this decline.

    1. Greater access to family planning information and contraceptives, and
    2. Restricted access to abortion due to state enacted laws.

    Greater access to contraception was determined to be the major factor in a 2011-2014 study. Obamacare mandated funding of contraceptives has had a positive impact on reducing abortions. Unintended pregnancies have also gone down. But now the Republican leadership is moving to restrict women's access to contraceptives. Undoubtedly, this will result in an INCREASE in the number of abortions.

    So who has blood on their hands? Republicans for doing very little to change Roe vs. Wade in 45 years and for restricting access to conception.

    Contraception was not opposed by the Protestant church when I was growing up. It was opposed by Catholics. Only since this issue has become politicized have evangelical Christians opposed it to it to support the Catholic position.
     
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    The Democrats have blocked any justice they could that was pro life. Prior to Roe V Wade, no one considered it an issue when appointing justices. The Republicans had no idea they were appointing pro murder justices. Beginning with Reagan, Republicans tried to appoint pro life justices. The Democrats have insured the balance of the court did not shift pro life. How many pro life justices your Democrats put on the court since Roe?
     
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    Both, if you want to quantify it - liberal progressives have more of the share.

    Especially with the new concept of post-partum abortion. KEEP THE FETUS COMFORTABLE WHILE YOU MURDER IT.
     
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    Exodus 20:13
    13 Thou shalt not kill.

    Deuteronomy 18:9-13
    - When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations.
    Deuteronomy 32:35 - To me [belongeth] vengeance, and recompence; their foot shall slide in [due] time: for the day of their calamity [is] at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste.


    Matthew 25:40 - And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done [it] unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done [it] unto me.
    Luke 17:2 - It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.
    Romans 12:19 - Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but [rather] give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance [is] mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
     
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    It is no wonder that wrath is coming. To reject the true savior - Jesus Christ ALMIGHTY GOD COME IN THE FLESH invites all the abominations found in the LAW of GOD and are presently here TODAY.


    Luke 17
    26 And as it was in the days of Noah so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
    27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark and the flood came, and destroyed them all.

    Genesis 19:14 And Lot went out, and spake unto his sons in law, which married his daughters, and said, Up, get you out of this place; for the LORD will destroy this city. But he seemed as one that mocked unto his sons in law.

    Luke 17
    28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
    29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
    30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
     
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    Reagan appointed Sandra Day O'Conner, Anthony Kennedy and Anton Scalia to the Supreme Court. None of them were blocked by the Democrats. In addition he elevated William Rehnquist to Chief Justice.

    Reagan nominated Robert Bork for the seat on July 1, 1987 but he was rejected by a bipartisan vote in the Senate.with 42 senators voting in favor and 58 voting against. Senators David Boren (D-OK) and Ernest Hollings (D-SC) voted in favor, with Senators John Chafee (R-RI), Bob Packwood (R-OR), Arlen Specter (R-PA), Robert Stafford (R-VT), John Warner (R-VA) and Lowell P. Weicker, Jr. (R-CT) all voting no. Bork was a very controversial appointment due to his civil rights history, support for a much stronger executive branch He then floated Douglas Ginsburg who withdrew his name due to allegations of drug use. Then Kennedy was nominated and approved. All of his successful nominations were approved without any Senators voting against them.

    I'd say Reagan's Supreme Court nominations were pretty much middle of the road not at all like the picture you painted. Remember, as Gov. of CA he signed the California Therapeutic Abortion Law, which at the time was one of the early liberalized state abortion laws.
     
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    The Sanctity of Life Christian belief includes more than being against abortion. My position is that all human life is sacred not just those of the unborn. When the European immigrants took over America 56 million American Indians were slaughtered. We claimed we had the God-given right to take their land. One million Vietnamese and 50 thousand Americans died in the Vietnam war. Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and Afghans were killed in those wars. For what good purpose did we start these invasions of their homeland? Because Iraq had "WMD?" Taking away food, shelter and medical care from the poor and homeless today results in a large number of premature deaths. The usual answer here is they do not deserve these things. I say that all of these lives are precious to God.
     
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    For this God will hold those responsible accountable. Caution: There are no graphic photos, just a verbal description of an abortion procedure, but you may get slightly sick to your stomach.

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    This is the sort of "reasoning" that deserves strong rebuke. Saying Republicans are responsible for instituting and prolonging the wholesale slaughter of innocents nationally is nonsense. A Supreme Court dominated by progressive left thinking created the Roe v. Wade doctrine out of thin air, and has since fiercely defended it and even extended it with the help of lockstep Democrats—presidents, legislators, the press, entertainers, educators, and voters.

    It is true that Republicans have not done enough to reverse this, but both executively and legislatively it has been a nightmare fight due to the progressive left. If the Democrat Party were mostly pro-life like the Republican, overturning Roe v. Wade permanently, and even impeaching any justices attempting its re-institution would be the order of the day. But the Democrat Party is adamantly pro-abortion. Democrats are clearly and overwhelmingly the intentional impediment to overcoming this evil. Those supporting them have no excuse for it, especially Christians.
     
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    You cannot bring back the lives of the dead, but you can stand against the current slaughter of innocents in the womb. To do otherwise is to demonstrate agreement with the historical elimination of those you claim to grieve, and most certainly does not demonstrate a belief that all lives are precious to God.
     
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    I only wish they were just slaughtering innocents in the womb. Now they are pushing to kill them out of the womb after a full term birth, as well.

    It's monstrous and evil and democrats are the ones pushing it and voting for it.

    So called "Christian" democrats included, who lie through their teeth when they say they are pro life, then vote for evil democrats to do their ugly bidding for them
     
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    Yes, of course, except that we don't wish they were doing any of it. I addressed these points in my post previous to this (see #16).
     
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    One might think that the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban (signed into law by George W. Bush in 2003--after two vetoes by Clinton, in 1995 and 1997--and finally upheld by the Supreme Court in 2007) would preclude the possibility of going beyond such procedures, but evidently that is not the case right now. Some abortionists have been killing late-term babies in the womb via lethal injection prior to the procedure in order to get around the wording of the ban.
     
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