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This sounds like a revival of Nazi Germany to me

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Zog Has-fallen, Feb 21, 2019.

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    Well, despite other imbalances presented in this thread, it should be pointed out that being a military ally does not mean that ally has no antichrist associations, or even that we don’t. Saudi Arabia also serves as a military ally, or vice versa. But they do not respect Christian practices or beliefs, even of US soldiers. Sunni Islam is no friend of Christ. Similarly, Talmudic Judaism is no friend of Christ. And in both cases, that is putting it mildly. But note that both have points in common. The US was also militarily allied with Communist Russia (the USSR) in WW2. About the only thing in common was Nazi Germany, the enemy. I would feel hard-pressed to argue which was less a friend of Christ. But if I were to choose our ally, I would not feel wrong.
     
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    In these discussions I’m reminded of how John ends his first epistle (1 John 5:17-21):

    17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death. 18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not. 19 And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness. 20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life. 21 Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.
     
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    I'm not terrified by straw men. I'm frightened by murderous Zionists and their unthinking fascist supporters.
     
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    And who are these Zionists? You have them mixed up with Muslim terrorists.
     
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    No such person.
     
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    As I've said before, there are only two points of view on this topic: that of the Harlot Church who is joined to and shills for our world-controlling shadow government, and that of a large number of dissidents. Unfortunately, the Harlot Babylon is too caught up in the pride of her own glory to want to listen to a despised number of dissidents.
     
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    This is where your link goes:

    In this version of the Christian Gospel, the exploitation and abuse of other human beings is a good. … And this global, heartless system of economic rationalism has morphed in the rhetoric of the Christian Right into a test of faith. The ideology it espouses is a radical evil, an ideology of death. It calls for wanton destruction, destruction of human beings, of the environment, of communities and neighborhoods, of labor unions, of a free press, of Iraqis, Palestinians or others in the Middle East who would deny us oil fields and hegemony, of federal regulatory agencies, social welfare programs, public education–in short, the destruction of all people and programs that stand in the way of a Christian America and its God-given right to dominate the rest of the planet. The movement offers, in return, the absurd but seductive promise that those who are right with God will rise to become spiritual and material oligarchs. They will become the new class. Those who are not right with God, be they poor or Muslim or unsaved, deserve what they get. In the rational world none of this makes sense. But believers have been removed from a reality-based world. They believe that through Jesus all is possible. It has become a Christian duty to embrace the exploitation of others, to build a Christian America where freedom means the freedom of the powerful to dominate the weak. Since believers see themselves as becoming empowered through faith, the gross injustices and repression that could boomerang back on most of them are of little concern. They assuage their consciences with the small acts of charity they or their churches dole out to the homeless or the mission fields. The emotion-filled religious spectacles and spiritual bromides compensate for the emptiness of their lives. They are energized by hate campaigns against gays or Muslims or liberals or immigrants. They walk willingly into a totalitarian prison they are helping to construct. They yearn for it. They work for it with passion, self-sacrifice and a blinding self-righteousness. “Evil when we are in its power is not felt as evil but as a necessity, or even a duty,” Simone Weil wrote in Gravity and Grace. And it is the duty of the Christian foot soldiers to bring about the Christian utopia. When it is finished, when all have been stripped of legal and social protection, it will be too late to resist. This is the genius of totalitarian movements. They convince the masses to agitate for their own incarceration. — Chris Hedges, American Fascists, pp. 146-147.

    I have never heard anyone on the Christian right say anything like this, so I will ask you again to tell us exactly who it is that you are talking about by naming names and citing quotations. In fact, there is no such person as described by Chris Hedges. The Seventh-day Millerites seem to be a leftist group on the attack and nothing else.
     
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    That's only the beginning. Keep looking. Watch the videos.
     
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    Yes, that’s the way he makes them look for sure. The world is full of false gospels. The Marxism/Communism/Socialism/Progressivism of the Liberal Left, now often called Social Justice, is about as bad as it gets. There are many who call themselves Christians that are sold on it, others that are Christians who have already suffered under it (and many do now).
     
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    Why bother? The propaganda is so badly skewed there is no reason to. Post something more efficient in writing that summarizes all the main points. Then we can evaluate from there, and decide if more detail is of interest.
     
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    To save your soul, maybe? What hope for salvation is there for the willfully deceived that persuade themselves that they're not morally required to listen to both sides of a two-sided controversy?
     
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    Only Seventh-day Millerites believe the insane charges that they level because they cannot list anyone other than themselves who says stuff like that.
     
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    Listen (read) carefully: Only God can save my or anyone else’s soul. Anyone thinking that anything in the political world can or will save his or anyone else’s soul has grossly misunderstood the Gospel. Salvation is found nowhere in world politics, only in Jesus Christ, and Jesus clearly said, “My kingdom is not of this world.”
     
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    The problem with Maduro for the communists is that he is a fat slob with no charisma. With the deaths of Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez, communism had no leader in Latin America. Rafael Correa in Equacador lost power. Daniel Ortega is a child molester. And Evo Morales is just a drug producer with no charm. Pope Francis is involved with so much coverup of homosexuality that he cannot go to Argentina again.

    The USA does not want or need Venezuelan oil. There is so much oil in the world that there is a glut of oil. The communists are on their own. Maduro can rail against white people all he wants but white Raul Castro is his boss and white Cubans run both Cuba and Venezuela.

    No one likes communism.
     
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    You have never heard anything like it because you refuse to listen to the on camera video confessions of the easily recognized deep state operatives that were exposed in post #3 of Babylon The Great Is A Murderous, Presumptuous Regime With A Global Reach.
     
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    In post #96 of this very thread, I posted a video by independent Baptist pastor Dr. Chuck Baldwin which exposes many of the indispensable pro-harlot doctrines that my fellowship also exposes.
     
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    The Covenanter is a Baptist on this board that affirms an essential thesis that Seventh-day Millerites also affirm, which you label an insane belief.
     
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    Yes, and I answered that Baldwin never established that American foreign policy should support communist dictatorships.
     
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