2 Corinthians 9:7 vs irresistible grace

It can be argued that the lost resist God's grace (Titus 2:11; Acts of the Apostles 7:51), but those who have believed have found it irresistible (John 6:44-45).

 

The verse has nothing to do with irresistible grace. The context is Christian's support of ministries.

 

No, this illustrates that you have absolutely no comprehension of what is meant by 'irresistible grace':

15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and he shall drink no wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Spirit, even from his mother`s womb.
41 And it came to pass, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit;
44 For behold, when the voice of thy salutation came into mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy. Lk 1

 

Lol...:

1 But Saul, yet breathing threatening and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest,
2 and asked of him letters to Damascus unto the synagogues, that if he found any that were of the Way, whether men or women, he might bring them bound to Jerusalem.
3 And as he journeyed, it came to pass that he drew nigh unto Damascus: and suddenly there shone round about him a light out of heaven:
4 and he fell upon the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?
5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest:
15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles and kings, and the children of Israel:
16 for I will show him how many things he must suffer for my name`s sake. Acts 9

 

If you get the chance, ask Jonah if he agrees with you. For a second opinion , (reference kyredneck's in post #6), you should as Paul if he agrees also.

 

Was there something about post #5 you didn't agree with? IMO, posts 5 & 6 are in the same vein.

 

Tell that to Jonah.
Tell the people of Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities of the plain that He never forces His will on someone.
Tell Pharoah of Egypt that He never causes things to happen to people outside of their will.
Moses at the burning bush.
God striking the Philistines with hemorrhoids for having the Ark of the Covenant in their towns.
Belshazzar of the Chaldeans.
Noah.
David losing his firstborn of Bathsheba.
Nebuchadnezzar being changed into something like an animal for 7 years, eating grass.
Mary becoming pregnant with the Son of God...no one asked her permission.
Zacharias in the book of Luke being struck dumb ( not able to talk ) for not believing the angel Gabriel about his coming son, John the Baptist.

Here's one I thought was interesting the first time I saw it:

" But God came to Abimelech in a dream by night, and said to him, Behold, thou [art but] a dead man, for the woman which thou hast taken; for she [is] a man’s wife.
4 But Abimelech had not come near her: and he said, Lord, wilt thou slay also a righteous nation?
5 Said he not unto me, She [is] my sister? and she, even she herself said, He [is] my brother: in the integrity of my heart and innocency of my hands have I done this.
6 And God said unto him in a dream, Yea, I know that thou didst this in the integrity of thy heart; for I also withheld thee from sinning against me: therefore suffered I thee not to touch her." ( Genesis 20:3-6 )

God withheld Abimelech from sinning.


From my reading, God can and very often does "force Himself" on people.
Physical death gets forced on people every minute of every day, against their precious "free will".

"Don't tread on me" says mankind.

He treads where He likes, because anything He does is righteous.

 

Nope. Should'a/could'a included it. Best to ya!

 

Jeremiah 18:1-11 NLT
The LORD gave another message to Jeremiah. He said, [2] “Go down to the potter’s shop, and I will speak to you there.” [3] So I did as he told me and found the potter working at his wheel. [4] But the jar he was making did not turn out as he had hoped, so he crushed it into a lump of clay again and started over.

[5] Then the LORD gave me this message: [6] “O Israel, can I not do to you as this potter has done to his clay? As the clay is in the potter’s hand, so are you in my hand. [7] If I announce that a certain nation or kingdom is to be uprooted, torn down, and destroyed, [8] but then that nation renounces its evil ways, I will not destroy it as I had planned. [9] And if I announce that I will plant and build up a certain nation or kingdom, [10] but then that nation turns to evil and refuses to obey me, I will not bless it as I said I would.

[11] “Therefore, Jeremiah, go and warn all Judah and Jerusalem. Say to them, ‘This is what the LORD says: I am planning disaster for you instead of good. So turn from your evil ways, each of you, and do what is right.’”

Just because God choses someone for a special task, it doesn't mean he and that person are stuck with each other.

Acts 26:15-19 NLT
“‘Who are you, lord?’ I asked. “And the Lord replied, ‘I am Jesus, the one you are persecuting. [16] Now get to your feet! For I have appeared to you to appoint you as my servant and witness. Tell people that you have seen me, and tell them what I will show you in the future. [17] And I will rescue you from both your own people and the Gentiles. Yes, I am sending you to the Gentiles [18] to open their eyes, so they may turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan to God. Then they will receive forgiveness for their sins and be given a place among God’s people, who are set apart by faith in me.’

[19] “And so, King Agrippa, I obeyed that vision from heaven.

Paul choses to obey. He did not have to.

Jonah 3:1-3 NLT
Then the LORD spoke to Jonah a second time: [2] “Get up and go to the great city of Nineveh, and deliver the message I have given you.” [3] This time Jonah obeyed the LORD’s command and went to Nineveh, a city so large that it took three days to see it all.

God was patient with Jonah and gave him a second chance. Jonah took this chance and reluctantly obeyed to the Lord.

Jonah 3:10 NLT
When God saw what they had done and how they had put a stop to their evil ways, he changed his mind and did not carry out the destruction he had threatened.

Need I mention this one, yet again.

 

This verse has nothing to do with salvation, therefore, it can have nothing to do with Irresistible Grace. What do you think IG is exactly?

 

I meant chose. I hate typos.

 

...and this refutes irresistible grace how?

15 But when it was the good pleasure of God, who separated me, even from my mother`s womb, and called me through his grace,
16 to reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the Gentiles; straightway I conferred not with flesh and blood: Gal 1

What part of that did Paul have any choice in?