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What did Peter mean?

MB

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That is a cause. And in 1 Peter 1:3 a verb.
No it isn't the proper interpretation "Begotten" is
This is what my Bible says and it's a lot more accurate .
1Pe 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
MB
 

37818

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No it isn't the proper interpretation "Begotten" is
This is what my Bible says and it's a lot more accurate .
1Pe 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
MB
Making the assertion a correct interpertattion is not correct does not make it not correct.
 

agedman

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Making the assertion a correct interpertattion is not correct does not make it not correct.
Don’t multiple negatives make a positive?

But your assertion is correct,

All assertions are as opinions and should be held only in as much as Scriptural principle validates the integrity of the assertion.
 

MB

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Making the assertion a correct interpertattion is not correct does not make it not correct.
Actually this is exactly what makes it not true according to the majority of text. You accept it only to support the theology you believe. Typical Calvinist do this all the time. Making scripture support doctrine.
1Pe 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
MB
 

agedman

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Actually this is exactly what makes it not true according to the majority of text. You accept it only to support the theology you believe. Typical Calvinist do this all the time. Making scripture support doctrine.
1Pe 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
MB

This argument is also made toward those who are non-calvinists.

So, it really is not supportable.

the principle of both the words remains that it took a direct act of God to make it happen. He caused the lively hope, is as valid as He has begotten us. For both focus upon the very direct act of God.

Straining over the use of one word over the other is of little value.

The verse could also use: constructed, created, or any word other than one suggesting remodeling or remaking of the old.

I like the words "born again into a lively hope" because it is so very very easy on the tongue.
 

MB

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Don’t multiple negatives make a positive?

But your assertion is correct,

All assertions are as opinions and should be held only in as much as Scriptural principle validates the integrity of the assertion.
So you don't believe scripture should be accurate.
MB
This argument is also made toward those who are non-calvinists.

So, it really is not supportable.

the principle of both the words remains that it took a direct act of God to make it happen. He caused the lively hope, is as valid as He has begotten us. For both focus upon the very direct act of God.

Straining over the use of one word over the other is of little value.

The verse could also use: constructed, created, or any word other than one suggesting remodeling or remaking of the old.

I like the words "born again into a lively hope" because it is so very very easy on the tongue.
You could even use the word "made", but "caused" to me does not make sense.
MB
 

agedman

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So you don't believe scripture should be accurate.
MB

You could even use the word "made", but "caused" to me does not make sense.
MB

No, I believe “every man is a liar” and God has given His Word to sift what is said to discern truthful statements while discarding the rest.

Let’s see if a bit of illustration will help.

My wife and I “begat” our children.

We were the ones who caused the pregnancy, that resulted in children being born.

We had to be actively involved in the begetting of children and caused the children.

The children were no begotten (caused) by any other means.

Hope that helps.
 
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