Featured Fundamental Baptists: At What Point Does a Church Become a Cult?

Obviously, y'all ain't never been to Texas.

 

If this is not a food joke, I would find it troublesome!

It's hard to say, since you are actively in the situation and we are far removed. Nevertheless, I would recommend a cautious watch against these tendencies growing into a full-blown pastoral dictator complex. Because of the circumstances, it may be that he is just over-reacting to the criticism you mentioned and will settle back into the past norm. But if he feeds these tendencies it could get out of control. There are lots of good Independent Fundamental Baptist pastors, and there are some who have spun out of control so that they thought they were answerable to none -- even God.

 

I have. Do y'all even know what pork is?

 

Well, to be fair, we have a Texas style BBQ in town, and their jalapeño cheddar sausage is divine.

 

Food aside,, it the Holy Spirit is not speaking through the Pastors and leaders, it is in error. There might be several reason why.
People can tell the difference

 

NoQuieroUnQueso, sorry for the diversion.

I have started a thread for those who wish to continue talking about the Best BBQ.

 

My IFB church does not believe, nor follow, ANY man-made doctrines of faith/worship. We are strictly Sola Scriptura. And that includes the false, man-made KJVO myth, preterism, calvinism, and many other "isms" that try to add man-made baggage to worship.

And no pastor should make a joke in fronta his congregation that could be taken as a racial or cultural slur, intended or not. remember Billy Graham's "theme song", Just As I am.

 

Typical Baptist they turn a post into a food blog... Mention any kind of supper and the Baptist are first in line... Not only are they first, they brought their own plate... It takes one to know one... One particular Pastor I remember long gone to be with the Lord, would go through the line filling his plate and tasting what was on his plate as he went through... He was known to comment this is really delicious and if I wasn't a married man I would marry the sister that made it... Right Now!... Btw... What Pastor makes a heretical comment about fried chicken or tacos at the wedding supper... Everyone knows it going to be Angel Food Cake... Brother Glen

 

So you prefer ribs & beans

 

I'm gonna start selling diet water soon. Anyone who bought a pet rock will buy it.

 

Have you ever had one of those moments when something sounded really funny in your head, but turned out not to be nearly as funny when it came out of your mouth? Not being able to see his body language, it is impossible to be 100% sure, but it sounds like a clumsy attempt at humor.

I joke around sometimes about there being chocolate in Heaven and that it grows on trees. Everyone knows I am kidding. I would give him the benefit of the doubt that he was not trying to establish doctrine but was just trying to have a light-hearted moment.

 

When will this thread be ended?

 

Up to the moderator.

While I appreciate your original post, it has been hi-jacked by some colloquial food aficionados.

In my opinion, they either have mocked God or they are very close to doing so.

Rev 19:9 KJV - And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed [are] they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

 

John Reisinger

"The following article is written primarily for Reformed Baptists only because that is the group with which I have been identified for over twenty years. There are Brethren Assemblies, Presbyterian, Independent, and Charismatic churches, as well as other types of Baptists, that clearly fit the description"

"I spent ten years in evangelism and preached in an average of forty churches a year. The constant problem that I encountered in many Reformed Baptist churches was the extent of the authority of the church and the eldership. Since the pastor was the 'duly authorized' representative of God in the local institution, the problem was really his personal authority over the life and conscience of the people....'Your conscience is under the authority of my preaching of the Scriptures.' Many Reformed preachers would not dare say that out loud, but they give every evidence of believing it in their hearts. They practice such an attitude in their ministries. This is the one thing that has hindered and hampered the Reformed Baptist movement"

"The subject of many sermons dealt with the role and authority of the church and the eldership. The primary thing that consumed most preachers was to have a "true New Testament church with a plurality of elders'....to establish 'elder rule' in the congregation....As one brother said, 'There is a danger in typical Reformed Baptist churches of having only two gifts; A giant tongue that speaks with absolute authority, and a giant ear that listens with unquestioning obedience.' Once that attitude is taken, it is inevitable that the church will move toward a spiritual dictatorship. In such a church, to challenge an elder is to challenge God's 'duly authorized messenger.' The sheep are in total subjection to the elder"

"If you are in a church and under a ministry like that...then I plead with you in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ to flee from it as fast as you can for the sake of your soul. You are not in a Baptist church. You are not in a Reformed church. You are not even in a Christian church. You are in a cult! If you choose to stay under such a ministry out of either fear or a false sense of loyalty, then you have no one to blame but yourself."