Is anyone interested in "the baptism with the Holy Spirit"?

I don't care what preposition is used.

Jesus Baptised His Divinely Originated church assembly, as a Perpetual Corporate Entity, some-preposition-how, on The Day of Pentecost.

That was the Public Inagural Substainciation of His Divine assembly He had Call Out, Given the Ordinances and Commissioned.

The is the Fulfillment of Daniel 9 that Jesus was to Annoint the Most Holy.

He Sent them, as a Divine Religious Institution Another Comfortor.

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Satan added "for by One Spirit" of something to do with Salvation, when those believers already had The Holy Spirit, "are we all", as if 'all' is referring to every Saved person, instead of the 'all' he was talking to, "baptized", as if this is talking about The Holy Spirit doing something other than Leading the 'all' there that it was written to, to be water baptized,...

into the one collective gathering of a congregated assembled body of believers there at Corinth.

Satan took that and added several false teachings.

That is what Satan did.

Satan put 'Spirit Saving Endwelling of a soul into a Mass-Catholic--non-body-non-assembly that is Catholic--Universal' that is all what Satan came up with and is Not Biblical and all an Abomination to God, His Son, His Holy Spirit, The Doctrine of Salvation, Jesus' churches and The Eternal Word of God.

Satanic Abomination that is Not in The Bible, but added by Satan.

 

The Lord's church that He had Founded and had been with, Personally, until His Ascention, was baptized with the Holy Spirit on The Day of Pentecost, as we see metaphorically described by God's Word, as a 'baptism'.

"He shall baptize you with The Holy Spirit..."


From Ron Crisp;

"Baptists are the only people, who to any extent, have taken interest in preserving and publishing records of accounts of Scriptural baptism.

" This seems odd considering they have never viewed baptism as a sacrament, channel of grace or promise of future grace...

" Other denominations do not emulate the New Testament writers by producing any real record of individual baptisms.

"This essay and the examples that follow will help clarify the importance of believer's baptism."



A Narrative of Surprising Baptisms, By Ron Crisp

 

For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit [I Corinthians 12:13].

 

By one Spirit each of the Corinthian believers were Given Unction to be water baptized into the assembled, congregated, body gathered in Corinth.

It doesn't matter if they were Jews or Gentiles, Slaves or free, the Water from The Rock that Saved them all was Jesus,

and they are brothers and sisters who have become members of that church body that assembles of The Lord Jesus Christ, as members in particular, in fellowship with Jesus as their Head.

The Spirit that Saved all of them, also Led them to be water baptized into that New Testament body of other baptized believers, at Corinth.

The Spirit that Saved the all is mentioned toward the end of that verse.

That Self-Same Spirit that Governed the Guildance of all of them to be water baptized into that specific fellowship body, at Corinth, is mentioned at the beginning of the verse.

The Holy Spirit is The Vicar of Christ.

There is no 'Spirit baptism'.

No big non-sensical monstrosity of a useless man-made Satan Inspired 'body' that is in no way or form of meaning any body at all Spoken of by God, anywhere.

 

Ah, yes, starting with you! Most likely a habitual adulterer.

Mat 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Jas 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

1Jn 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

The reality is that you have a huge stumbling block right smack-dab in the middle of your of soteriological view. I’d suggest you earnestly study to understand Progressive Revelation because you demonstrate you are spiritually discerned (1 Cor 2:11-16) concerning the object of your faith and failing to understand the matter of salvation by the free gift of grace alone, through faith alone, in the promise of Christ alone.

Rom 4:13-25 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith. (14) For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect: (15) Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression. (16) Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,

Rom 5:15-21 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. (16) And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification. (17) For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) (18) Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. (19) For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. (20) Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound: (21) That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.


You are not the first wannabe fruit inspector that I’ve seen resort to a works based theology to peddle his own righteousness and attack those whom he wishes to judge according to his pet peeve sins…but perhaps you would like to clear this matter up by telling us the exact line of sin(s) that cannot be crossed wherein you have maintained a perfect record which would justify your salvation? I'd really like to know how you know that you've earned your way to the kingdom of heaven...

 

you should care because God cares.
to be baptized "in" water means immersion.
to be baptized "with" water means sprinkling.

 

According to God?

So, if I am drowned with talcum powder, it is because I sprinkled some on my foot?

Give God a break.

 

Yes, According to the Koine Greek language the Holy Spirit used when He inspired Matthew and Luke to write scripture.

KJV Matthew 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:

ASV Matthew 3:11 I indeed baptize you in water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you in the Holy Spirit and in fire:

IMO The ASV correctly translates the Greek word "en" as "in" not "with".

ἐγὼ μὲν βαπτίζω ὑμᾶς ἐν ὕδατι - I BAPTIZE YOU IN WATER (NOT WITH WATER)

 

"with", or "in" are both valid translations and make no differentiation in the meaning of the verse.

Both are grammatically possible.

Both are contextually possible.

'baptise you with water' is in contrast to 'baptize you with The Holy Spirit', 'and with fire'.

Those are the three elements to two of them would be baptising with.

Who?
How?
What?

in Matthew 3 is pertinent, as it is in other verses mentioning 'baptism'.

 

No, they are not.

The erroneous choice of the KJV Church of England translators to choose "with" rather than "in" was IMO an effort to support the High Anglo-Catholic Church doctrine of infant baptism/baptismal regeneration which they practice to this day.

BECAUSE
If one reads the Articles of Faith it can be seen that the Church of England is AT BEST still in a state of confusion CONCERNING WATER BAPTISM and supports the doctrine of REGENERATION by WATER BAPTISM therefore baptizing infants.

The Anglo Catholic Church never made a clean break from the Roman Catholic Church and this choice of translation has blotched their doctrine in more than one way. England has a history of bloodshed vacillating between Roman and Anglo Catholic doctrine partly because the King James translators made a wrong decision over ONE WORD.

This choice of wording has further led to the error of Charismatic Theology of tongues and other errors.

 

I am just asking you to prove by the Bible that there exists something called that Baptism in Holy Ghost as you define it, and the answer is the scriptures NEVER command us to seek it!

 

Define habitual sinning!

 

There is but one Baptism of the Holy Spirit mentioned in Bible, and all who are saved already experienced that at conversion...

 

I won't speak for Samuel.

But
Since this is debate forum - a habitual sinner is one who sins in a continuous uninterrupted way and is spoken of in the present participle as a slave "committed" to sin.

John 8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

 

OK This is only recorded here in this passage to the Corinthians and therefore you can never be sure it is for you as well.
Show me where it is for you as well.

This is written to the Universal Church for all NT believers.

 

So you claim... I don't say yea or nay to your claim Yeshua1
but I would like it if you show us the passage and exegete it for us please.

 

That is true Hank but there are sins of commission and sins of omission... Doing something we shouldn't do is a sin as is doing something we should do and do not... That is a sin also... Brother Glen

 

You prefer one preposition, as a translation, over another.

A bunch of people go ape over it.

Jehovah's False Witnesses make a whole False Religion over an article, 'a', vs an implied, 'the'.

Great. Not great for them, great for you.

Just great.

Great.

In English, I can be drowned with water.

The meaning is not an error.

It was their preference in the KJV, for the reason you said, and the other things you said are right on.

Their misinterpretation of what I consider a plenty passible translation, of a preposition is not what a soul wants to base their Eternal Destiny on. WITH.

 

Yes. Let me clarify - The born again believer is capable of sins but he/she cannot "commit sin" as a way of life as a slave to sin.

A slave to sin is one who is still in bondage to the adamic nature which we all possess because of Adam
Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

This bondage is broken by the power of the new birth.

Romans 5
18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

John 8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

 

Matthew 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.