When Does God Send People Strong Delusions To Believe Lies?

Nice selfie Dan, where did you take it. Looks cold where you live
God's Sheep hear His Voice (the Word) and follow him *JOHN 10:26-27 while the wolves do not *1 JOHN 2:3-4.

 

Nothing it is true. It's application though is only to "BELIEVERS and FOLLOWERS" of Gods' WORD not those who were "ONCE BELIEVERS" *HEBREWS 6:4-8; HEBREWS 10:26-39 and have become "UNBELIEVERS" and those who never believed God's Word.

 

Of course it is true. Your getting the promises of God's WORD confused with who God gives them to. Do you not believe the scriptures brother as shown in HEBREWS 10:26-39; JOHN 10:26-27; MATTHEW 7:22-26; JOHN 3:15-21; 1 JOHN 2:3-4. Why would you say they are not true? Do you think "UNBELIEVERS" will enter the KINGDOM of HEAVEN when they do not "BELIEVE and FOLLOW" God's WORD or they once believed but no longer believe and follow? Time for you to seek God in his Word for yourself brother. Look at your friends here. They cannot address the posts and scriptures in them that show why they are in error so they harden their heart to hearing and receiving God's WORD and their response is only to make false accusations and name calling because they have no scripture for their man made teachings and traditions that break the commandments of God. All those who practice Sin after they have been given a knowledge of the truth will not enter the kingdom of heaven because they count the blood of the covenant an unholy thing and reject the gift of God's dear son *HEBREWS 10:26-39; ROMANS 6:23.

 

Sorry Numbers, that is not true your just repeating yourself when shown from God's Word the application of the Greek "ου μη" is only true to those who "BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's Word. According to your post you do not believe God's Word as you are claiming those who are "UNBELIEVERS" and do not follow God's WORD have salvation. Sorry brother this is unbiblical. You are confused those who do not believe and follow God's Word are goats not sheep and are lost unless they return to God and believe and follow God's Word.

 

I have explained it many times to you already. Brother are you reading anything that is posted to you and looking at the scriptures shared with you?

Let's try explaining it a different way (not different in meaning but coming from a different angle) perhaps it will help if we trace all the application of HEBREWS 10:17 back to who it is written to than ask a few relavant questions that may help the discussion here. Let's start by examing the origin of HEBREWS 10:16-17 and trace the origin to who it is applied to in the bible..

HEBREWS 10:16-17 [16], This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; [17], And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

The scriptures shared above brother are a summarised version of God's NEW COVENANT promise to ISRAEL. This is only repeating what PAUL says earlier in more detail in...

HEBREWS 8:10-13 [10], For this is the covenant that I will make with the HOUSE OF ISRAEL after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: [11], And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. [12], For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. [13], In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

Paul takes these scriptures from...

JEREMIAH 31:31-34 [31], Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the HOUSE OF ISRAEL, and with the HOUSE OF JUDAH: [32], Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: [33], But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the HOUSE OF ISRAEL; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. [34], And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

Ok so you would agree that this NEW COVENANT promise is given to THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL right?

Ok if we believe the NEW COVENANT promise is to God's ISRAEL that next question would be...

WHO ARE GOD'S ISRAEL IN THE NEW COVENANT?

Continued in next post..

 

WHO ARE GOD'S ISRAEL IN THE NEW COVENANT AND NEW COVENANT PROMISE?

God's ISRAEL in the NEW COVENANT are all those who "BELIEVE and FOLLOW" God's WORD (the Church)...

There is no such thing as Jew or Greek anymore. All who believe and follow God's Word are one in Christ. Israel in the OLD COVENANT were those from the seed of Abraham. In the NEW COVENANT, if you are in Christ then you are Abrahams seed and heirs according to the promise...

EPHESIANS 2:11-13 [11], Why remember, that you being in TIME PAST Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;

[12], That AT THAT TIME [in the Past] YOU WERE WITHOUT CHRIST, BEING ALIENS FROM THE COMMONWEALTH OF ISRAEL, STRANGERS FROM THE COVENANT OF PROMISE, HAVING NO HOPE, AND WITHOUT GOD IN THE WORLD: [13], BUT NOW IN CHRIST JESUS, YOU WHO WERE FAR OFF ARE MADE NEAR BY THE BLOOD OF CHRIST.

GALATIANS 3:28-29 [28], THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: FOR YOU ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS AND IF YOU BE CHRISTS, THEN YOU ARE ABRAHAM'S SEED FOR YOU ARE ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS [29], and IF YOU BE CHRISTS, THEN ARE YOU ABRAHAM'S SEED, AND HEIRS ACCORDING TO THE PROMISE.

God's true ISRAEL in the NEW COVENANT are not by name only but all those in Christ. Those of the FLESH (sinful human nature) are not Abrahams seed but those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God in Christ are God's ISRAEL...

ROMANS 9:6-8 [6], FOR THEY ARE NOT ALL ISRAEL WHICH ARE OF ISRAEL,: [7], NEITHER, BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SEED OF ABRAHAM, ARE THEY ALL CHILDREN: but in Isaac shall thy seed be called <Christ> [8], That is, THEY WHICH ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE FLESH, THESE ARE NOT THE CHILDREN OF GOD: BUT THE CHILDREN OF THE PROMISE <those who believe> ARE COUNTED FOR THE SEED.

God's ISRAEL are all those in CHRIST that have been given a NEW HEART according to the NEW COVENANT promise...

ROMANS 2:28-29 [28], FOR HE IS NOT A JEW WHICH IS ONE OUTWARDLY; NEITHER IS THAT CIRCUMCISION, WHICH IS OUTWARDS IN THE FLESH: [29], BUT HE IS A JEW WHICH IS ONE INWARDLY; and CIRCUMCISION IS OF THE HEART, IN THE SPIRIT, AND NOT IN THE LETTER; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

In the NEW COVENANT all those in Christ are are God's ISRAEL...

COLOSSIANS 3:11 [11], WHERE THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: BUT CHRIST IS ALL IN ALL.

ROMANS 10:11-13 [11], For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. [12], FOR THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JEW OR GREEK: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. [13], FOR WHOSOEVER SHALL CALL UPON THE NAME OF THE LORD SHALL BE SAVED.

The New Covenant is for God's Israel...

EZEKIEL 36:26-27 [26], A NEW HEART WILL I GIVE YOU, AND A NEW SPIRIT WILL I PUT WITHIN YOU; AND I WILL TAKE AWAY THE STONY HEART OUT OF YOUR FLESH, AND GIVE YOU A HEART OF FLESH. [27], AND I WILL PUT MY SPIRIT WITHIN YOU, AND CAUSE YOU TO WALK IN MY STATUTES AND YOU SHALL KEEP MY JUDGEMENTS AND DO THEM.

and again...

JEREMIAH 31:33-34 [33], BUT THIS IS THE COVENANT THAT I WILL MAKE WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL; After those days, says the LORD, I WILL PUT MY LAW IN THEIR INWARD PARTS,AND WRITE IT IN THEIR HEARTS; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. [34], And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, says the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

Paul proclaims it here...

HEBREWS 8:10-12 [10], BUT THIS IS THE COVENANT THAT I WILL MAKE WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL; After those days, says the LORD, I WILL PUT MY LAW IN THEIR INWARD PARTS, AND WRITE IT IN THEIR HEARTS; and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: [11], And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. [12], For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

The NEW COVENANT is for GOD'S ISRAEL which represent those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God’s WORD.
If you are not part of GOD'S ISRAEL then you are not a part of the NEW COVENANT (Hebrews 8:10-12).

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CONCLUSION: God's ISRAEL is the name given by God to all those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW his WORD. GENTILES are now grafted in. If you are not a part of the God's ISRAEL then you have no part in the NEW COVENANT. Can you see from this way that as was shared with you earlier your getting the promises of God's WORD confused with who God gives them to.

Do you believe the scriptures brother as shown in HEBREWS 10:26-39; JOHN 10:26-27; MATTHEW 7:22-26; JOHN 3:15-21; 1 JOHN 2:3-4 that show God's promises are only conditional to those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD?

Do you think "UNBELIEVERS" will enter the KINGDOM of HEAVEN when they do not "BELIEVE and FOLLOW" God's WORD or they once believed but no longer believe and follow?

As shown through the scriptures above the GREEK "ου μη" must be read within scripture and chapter context that defines application. According to the scriptures the application of "ου μη" is only applied to those who "BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's Word (GOD'S ISRAEL ias defined in the NEW COVENANT). Not those who once believed and no longer believe or those who are "UNBELIEVERS" as described further in the same chapter in HEBREWS 10:26-39

According to God's Word all those who practice Sin after they have been given a knowledge of the truth will not enter the kingdom of heaven because they count the blood of the covenant an unholy thing and reject the gift of God's dear son *HEBREWS 10:26-39; ROMANS 6:23.

 

OOk. Soooo.....

* In your view God's Word is not true that the NEW Covenant promise is to God's ISREAL
* In your view God's Word is not true and "UNBELIEVERS" and those who sin enter God's Kindom
* In your view God's Word is not true and everyone who continues to practice sin is saved.

I am sorry brother your claims and teachings are not biblical, and we must believe in and follow a different JESUS. You are free to believe and do as you wish. You have been shown the scriptures that show why you are in error so I will leave that between you and God. Ignoring God's WORD does not make it dissappear.

God's Sheep Hear His Voice and follow him.

 

Than prove your words. By God's Grace I have proven mine and shown you why you are in error through God's Word so it is you that do not seem to be listening not me.

 

You are confused. Every scripture you have posted is to "BELIEVERS" not "UNBELIEVERS" or those who "ONCE BELIEVED" yestersay but have "FALLEN AWAY" and "DEPARTED THE FAITH TODAY " to become "UNBELIEVERS *HEBREWS 10:26-39.

Do you believe the scriptures brother as shown in HEBREWS 10:26-39; JOHN 10:26-27; MATTHEW 7:22-26; JOHN 3:15-21; 1 JOHN 2:3-4 that show God's promises are only conditional to those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD?

Do you think "UNBELIEVERS" will enter the KINGDOM of HEAVEN when they do not "BELIEVE and FOLLOW" God's WORD or they once believed but no longer believe and follow?

As shown through the scriptures above the GREEK "ου μη" must be read within scripture and chapter context that defines application. According to the scriptures the application of "ου μη" is only applied to those who "BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's Word (GOD'S ISRAEL ias defined in the NEW COVENANT). Not those who once believed and no longer believe or those who are "UNBELIEVERS" as described further in the same chapter in HEBREWS 10:26-39

According to God's Word all those who practice Sin after they have been given a knowledge of the truth will not enter the kingdom of heaven because they count the blood of the covenant an unholy thing and reject the gift of God's dear son *HEBREWS 10:26-39; ROMANS 6:23.