Trump administration unveils new water rules for California

[Revmitchell]

The Trump administration on Tuesday unveiled new rules to govern California’s scarce water, committing to send more to farmers in the Central Valley despite warnings from environmental groups that it would imperil endangered species in the fragile San Joaquin Delta.

The rules govern management of the federal Central Valley Project and the State Water Project, two complex labyrinths of dams and canals that corral rain and snowmelt to provide water to more than 25 million Californians and millions of acres of farmland.

An initial review by the national Marine Fisheries Services in July concluded the plan would threaten the existence of some endangered species, including winter-run chinook salmon, according to the Los Angeles Times. But the Trump administration never released that plan.

The report the government did release on Tuesday, known as a “biological opinion,” said the plan “will not jeopardize threatened or endangered species,” clearing the way for it to be implemented early next year. But it’s likely environmental groups will sue to block it.

“I think this biological opinion is the end result of the Trump administration’s junk science and political interference,” said Doug Obegi, senior attorney with the Natural Resources Defense Council.


Trump administration unveils new water rules for California

 

[Shoostie]

Why not let California have tighter environmental restrictions than the fed requires? It's their state, and so their business. If they're right, they're right. If they're wrong, let them have the rope they want to hang themselves with.

 

[church mouse guy]

Why not let California have tighter environmental restrictions than the fed requires? It's their state, and so their business. If they're right, they're right. If they're wrong, let them have the rope they want to hang themselves with.

Thankfully, I don't know anything about California, but I listen to Victor Davis Hanson talk about how they have declined to increase reservoir capacity for the last half century or more so that the interior is parched while water runs out to the ocean. Of course, Babs Streisand has plenty of water for her Malibu mansion.

Another thing that California is doing is that they are washing down the streets of places like San Francisco and Los Angeles and sending raw sewage and all sorts of debris right into the ocean just like Vancouver that dumps about all of their raw sewage right into the ocean just like Venice. California must account for most of the water pollution in the USA.

And then these fires are really adding to air pollution. They used to clear 10' of brush around the power lines but now it is 4' and they don't know why they have so many fires except that full-blown socialism would stop the fires they think. It looks as if California is going to shut off electricity to Northern California by forcing the power company into bankruptcy. Don't buy an electric car because if the battery is dead and the electricity is cut off and a wildfire comes your way, you are going to be cremated alive.

 

[Ziggy]

Usually whenever "endangered species" is used by supposed "environmentalists" to block various construction or other projects, it ends up being only a smokescreen. If the projects finally get permitted, the same endangered species continue to survive with no noticeable impact from the projects involved.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

At least in San Francisco, all wastewater undergoes treatment before it's ent put to sea.

Another thing that California is doing is that they are washing down the streets of places like San Francisco and Los Angeles and sending raw sewage and all sorts of debris right into the ocean just like Vancouver that dumps about all of their raw sewage right into the ocean

 

[church mouse guy]

At least in San Francisco, all wastewater undergoes treatment before it's ent put to sea.

Okay, thanks for clearing that up about San Francisco not polluting the ocean with raw sewage. Indianapolis agonizes over the fact that rainwater drains into the White River from the streets. I think that they can handle light rains at the sewage treatment plants but heavy rains just drain into White River. One of the problems that Indianapolis has is that it was marshy ground around the White River when the state government moved here from Corydon, Indiana. They just calculated the very center of the state and built a city here where there was nothing before except a couple of guys had cabins along the river. So downtown Indianapolis has minor problems but the engineers solved most of them long ago. When the sewers get full, buildings have valves to close the sewers off from backflow and then have large holding tanks to hold sewage until it can go into the sewers. I am sure that that is true all over the country. If your building does not have a holding tank, you have to hope that not too many people are using the drains for a few hours until the problem is solved. This limits the type of tenants that such buildings can have, of course.

 

[agedman]

Okay, thanks for clearing that up about San Francisco not polluting the ocean with raw sewage. Indianapolis agonizes over the fact that rainwater drains into the White River from the streets. I think that they can handle light rains at the sewage treatment plants but heavy rains just drain into White River. One of the problems that Indianapolis has is that it was marshy ground around the White River when the state government moved here from Corydon, Indiana. They just calculated the very center of the state and built a city here where there was nothing before except a couple of guys had cabins along the river. So downtown Indianapolis has minor problems but the engineers solved most of them long ago. When the sewers get full, buildings have valves to close the sewers off from backflow and then have large holding tanks to hold sewage until it can go into the sewers. I am sure that that is true all over the country. If your building does not have a holding tank, you have to hope that not too many people are using the drains for a few hours until the problem is solved. This limits the type of tenants that such buildings can have, of course.

I lived out in the country and had such a tank.

And my grandparents had a tank in their bedroom.

Yankee’s can be so far behind the times.