Pure Cambridge Edition Bible

[rlvaughn]

In the thread The Bible at your fingertips, the subject of the Pure Cambridge Edition Bible came up. For example:

These Landmark Baptists seem to be repeating the unproven claim of a KJV-only Pentecostal in Australia concerning a so-called "Pure Cambridge Edition"...

I had never heard of this, so did a little searching. According to one site supportive of the King James Version Bible, the Pure Cambridge Edition is “an out-of-print Cambridge text [circa 1900], determined to be ‘pure’ by Mr. Verschuur, a young and ambitious Pentecostal man from Australia.” They commend his research as “fairly exhaustive” but go on to say that his conclusions that the Cambridge text he uses is superior to other Cambridge texts cannot be defended, and that when he can’t defend his points, “he relies on his ‘Pentecostal’ experiences to defend them.” They say this “Pentecostal defense” is found in his book, Guide to the Pure Cambridge Edition of the King James Bible.

Matthew Verschuur has a website called Bible Protector where he promotes the Pure Cambridge Bible. This site links to Victory Faith Centre in South Geelong, Victoria, Australia – so I am assuming that is his church.

Matthew Verschuur’s “Statement to all King James Bible (KJB) supporters concerning the Pure Cambridge Edition (PCE)” can be found HERE.

There has been a great ignorance of the fact that a final purification took place in the history of the King James Bible. Those who have studied the history of the King James Bible in depth would have been aware of the major purifications that took place, such as the editions of 1629, 1638 and 1769. There was also a proper purification that took place circa 1900, which has resulted in the final text of the King James Bible, which is in all ways the definitive presentation of the King James Bible, and should not be altered.

Thought I'd relay what I found. Some of you are probably quite familiar with this edition and claim, but others of you were probably like me, in the dark.

 

[Logos1560]

Matthew Verschuur has a website called Bible Protector where he promotes the Pure Cambridge Bible. This site links to Victory Faith Centre in South Geelong, Victoria, Australia – so I am assuming that is his church.

As I understood it a few years ago, Craig Savige was pastor (or head elder) of this church Victory Faith Centre or was perhaps co-pastor with his wife Samantha Savige although Craig Savige, Samantha Savige, and Matthew Verschuur were all listed as its elders.

Matthew Verschuur did have a list of a very few renderings (six to eight) that he considered the text to determine whether a KJV edition was supposedly the pure Cambridge edition.

 

[rlvaughn]

Matthew Verschuur did have a list of a very few renderings (six to eight) that he considered the text to determine whether a KJV edition was supposedly the pure Cambridge edition.

There is a list of 12 at the bottom of the “Statement to all King James Bible (KJB) supporters concerning the Pure Cambridge Edition (PCE)” page:

1. “or Sheba” not “and Sheba” in Joshua 19:2
2. “sin” not “sins” in 2 Chronicles 33:19
3. “Spirit of God” not “spirit of God” in Job 33:4
4. “whom ye” not “whom he” in Jeremiah 34:16
5. “Spirit of God” not “spirit of God” in Ezekiel 11:24
6. “flieth” not “fleeth” in Nahum 3:16
7. “Spirit” not “spirit” in Matthew 4:1
8. “further” not “farther” in Matthew 26:39
9. “bewrayeth” not “betrayeth” in Matthew 26:73
10. “Spirit” not “spirit” in Mark 1:12
11. “spirit” not “Spirit” in Acts 11:28
12. “spirit” not “Spirit” in 1 John 5:8

 

[Logos1560]

Twelve individual renderings in an entire KJV edition are not enough to determine which edition is better or more accurate.

A KJV edition could have a poorer rendering or even an error in a different place, and yet it would supposedly still be a "pure Cambridge edition" according to his limited, inadequate list.

 

[rlvaughn]

I didn't say his list proves anything. Just responding to your saying he had a list, and pointing out where one is.

 

[Just_Ahead]

Logos1560,
If memory serves me, a few years ago you made several lengthy posts about the various editions of published KJV Bibles. I am not asking you to repeat those posts because that must have been a lot of work for you. However, it would be nice to find and read them once again. Do you have the thread forum and titles handy?

 

[Logos1560]

Is the rendering in the claimed "Pure Cambridge edition" at 1 Chronicles 2:55 more consistent, better, accurate, faithful to the preserved Scriptures in the original languages than all other KJV editions?

1 Chronicles 2:55 [Hammath--1560 Geneva; Hemath--1602 Bishops] [see Josh. 19:35--same Hebrew word]

Hemeth [1775 Cambridge]

Hammath [1985 Cambridge, 1953 Pitt Minion, Cambridge Standard Text Edition, 1972, 2011 Cameo, 2011 Pitt Minion Reduced] (2010 Local Church Bible Publishers) (Norton Critical Edition)

Hamath [1648, 2005, 2011 Cambridge] (2006 Penguin)

Hemath (1769 Oxford, SRB) [1629, 1769 Cambridge, DKJB]

 

[Logos1560]

Matthew Verschuur does not actually demonstrate that the edition of the KJV that he compiled and calls the "pure" one is actually most consistent and best in its capitalization or non-capitalization of "spirit." Does he in effect imply that the many KJV editions that differ from the one he advocates have impurities in the places where they differ?

Acts 11:12 [Spirit--1560 Geneva; spirit--1568 & 1602 Bishops] [see Acts 10:19]
the spirit (1715, 1754, 1765, 1769, 1787, 1791, 1792, 1795, 1795e, 1798, 1800, 1810, 1812, 1819, 1821, 1828, 1829, 1830, 1831, 1835, 1838, 1840, 1847, 1850, 1853, 1857, 1859, 1865, 1868, 1870, 1876, 1880, 1885, 1890 Oxford) [1648, 1743, 1747, 1762, 1769, 1775, 1783, 1837, 1842, 1844, 1865, 1869, 1872, 1887 Cambridge, 1953 PM, 1972, 2011 Cameo, 2011 PMR] {1611, 1613, 1617, 1640, 1655, 1657, 1660, 1684, 1698, 1706, 1711, 1723, 1735, 1759, 1767, 1817, 1838, 1851, 1860 London} (1722, 1751, 1756, 1769, 1851 Edinburgh) (1743, 1762, 1782, 1809 Dublin) (1770 Dodd) (1782 Aitken) (1785 Wilson) (1807 Johnson) (1817 Clarke) (1842 Girdlestone) (1895, 1958 NPC) (1897 ABU) (1905, 1945, 1954 World) (1908, 1957, 1964 TCRB) (1942 UBBH) (CB) (Nave’s) (Dake’s) (1940, 1976, 1979-1 Holman) (1952 Judson) (1956, 1957, 1958, 1975, 1999 Collins) (1961, 1975, 1978 GID) (1961 NBP) (1972 TN) (1974 MBI) (1975 CBP) (1976 BH) (1987 Dugan) (MSB) (VFC) (2002, 2010 KJVER) (2001, 2002, 2003 Barbour) (2003 IGC) (2003 EB) (KJVJB) (CNB) (2010 BEAMS) (2010 LCBP) (HKJVSB) (NCE) (2014 HKJVSBps)

the SPIRIT (2009 Strand)

the Spirit (1675, 1679, 1681, 1709, 1720, 1728, 1737, 1743, 1749, 1753, 1762, 1764, 1768, 1771, 1772, 1774, 1776, 1778, 1783, 1784, 1788, 1928, 1977 Oxford, 1952 PE, SRB, 1996 SSB, Oxford Classic, NPB) [1629, 1635, 1637, 1638, 1683, 1760, 1761, 1763B, 1765, 1767, 1768, 1778, 1790, 1795, 1800, 1812, 1816, 1817, 1822, 1824, 1833, 1873, 2005, 2011 Cambridge, CCR, CSTE, DKJB, 2011 Transetto Text, 2011 Clarion] {1614, 1616, 1626, 1630, 1631, 1634, 1650, 1672, 1689, 1730, 1743, 1747, 1750, 1753, 1760, 1763, 1764, 1768, 1772, 1795, 1813, 1816, 1818, 1820, 1824, 1825, 1853, 1877, 1879, 1976 London} (1755 Oxon) (1637, 1638, 1715, 1764, 1766, 1787, 1789, 1791, 1793, 1810, 1820, 1827, 1842, 1858 Edinburgh) (1866 Glasgow) (1722, 1741, 1801 Dublin) (1645 Dutch) (1695, 1701, 1798, 1810 Baxter) (1700 MP) (1746 Leipzig) (1774 Bristol) (1774 Fortescu) (1776 Birmingham) (1776 Pasham) (1784 Piguenit) (1791, 1816 Collins) (1791 Thomas) (1801 Hopkins) (1803 Etheridge) (1804 Blomfield) (1809, 1810, 1818, 1828 Boston) (1810 Woodward) (1811 Hewlett) (1813, 1815 Carey) (1814 Cummings) (1814, 1835 Scott) (1815 Walpole) (1816, 1836 Hartford) (1817, 1824, 1826 Bagster) (1818 Holbrook) (1821, 1831 Brown) (1827 Smith) (1832 PSE) (1839 Jenks) (1840 Roby) (1841 Thomas) (1843, 1856 AFBS) (1854, 1876 Harding) (1859 RTS) (1876 Porter) (1910 Collins) (1911 TCE) (1923 NIB) (1924 Hertel) (1947 SP) (1948 WSE) (1959 Little) (1966 SC) (GPB) (KJRLB) (CHSB) (RSB) (1970, 1976, 1987, 1989, 1991, 2002, 2003 TN) (1973, 1976, 1990 REG) (1972 NMRB) (1975, 1985 Open) (1976 OGH) (1976 TBR) (RRB) (WMCRB) (1984, 1994, 2000, 2002, 2010 ZOND) (1984, 1991 AMG) (1985 VB) (1987, 1988 IBS) (1979-2, 1996, 1998, 2000, 2010, 2013 Holman) (1987 PSI) (1988, 2007 TCRB) (1989, 1991, 1998, 2004 World) (1996 ELKJV) (1997 NPC) (1990’s LCBP) (1991, 2012 FWP) (2000 Rainbow) (JVIPB) (Life) (LPB) (TPB) (HPB) (2005 ICC) (2006 PENG) (2006 PP) (KJVCB) (2007 SFCB) (2008 GID) (2008, 2012 ROASB) (2007, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2011p HEND) (2008 Pilot) (NHPB) (2009 Ruckman) (2010, 2015 Baker) (2010 BRO) (ASB) (2011 AMP) (2011, 2012, 2015, 2016 Barbour) (APB) (2011 KJVDB) (2011 PJB) (2011 WB) (TBS-WT) (HMSB) (2012 F-S) (2012 Biblica) (2012 WSB) (2013 CC) (2013 HMB) (2013, 2014 TGS) (2014 RHKJVSB) (2014 TSB) (2015 KJVFSB) (2015 KAPPA) (2017 KWSB) (1842 Bernard) (1851 Cone) (1824 Boothroyd) [NKJV]


Acts 11:28 [Spirit--1560 Geneva, NKJV; spirit--1568 & 1602 Bishops]
the spirit (1675, 1681, 1709, 1715, 1720, 1728, 1737, 1743, 1747, 1749, 1753, 1754, 1758, 1762, 1764, 1765, 1769, 1774, 1787, 1788, 1791, 1792, 1795, 1795e, 1798, 1800, 1803, 1810, 1812, 1819, 1821, 1828, 1829, 1830, 1831, 1835, 1838, 1840, 1847, 1850, 1853, 1857, 1859, 1867, 1868, 1870, 1876, 1880, 1885, 1890 Oxford) [1629, 1635, 1637, 1638, 1648, 1683, 1743, 1747, 1762, 1769, 1775, 1783, 1800, 1833, 1837, 1842, 1844, 1865, 1869, 1872, 1887 Cambridge, 1953 PM, 1972, 2011 Cameo, 2011 PMR] {1611, 1613, 1616, 1634, 1657, 1660, 1684, 1689, 1698, 1706, 1723, 1730, 1735, 1743, 1747, 1750, 1759, 1760, 1763, 1764, 1767, 1772, 1813, 1816, 1817, 1818, 1820, 1824, 1825, 1838, 1851, 1860 London} (1755 Oxon) (1637, 1638, 1715, 1722, 1751, 1756, 1764, 1851 Edinburgh) (1722, 1741, 1743, 1762, 1782, 1801, 1809 Dublin) (1645 Dutch) (1695, 1701, 1798 Baxter) (1746 Leipzig) (1774 Fortescu) (1782 Aitken) (1785 Wilson) (1811 Hewlett) (1842 Girdlestone) (1895, 1958 NPC) (1897 ABU) (1905, 1945, 1954 World) (1908, 1957, 1964 TCRB) (Dake’s) (1940, 1976, 1979-1 Holman) (1942 UBBH) (1952 Judson) (1956, 1957, 1958, 1975, 1999 Collins) (1961, 1975, 1978 GID) (1961 NBP) (1972 TN) (1974 MBI) (1975 CBP) (1976 BH) (1987 Dugan) (1991 AMG) (VFC) (2002, 2010 KJVER) (2001, 2002, 2003 Barbour) (2003 EB) (2003 IGC) (KJVJB) (MSB) (CNB) (2009 Strand) (2010 BEAMS) (2010 LCBP) (HKJVSB) (NCE) (2014 HKJVSBps)

the Spirit (1768, 1771, 1776, 1778, 1783, 1784, 1928, 1977 Oxford, SRB, Oxford Classic, 1996 SSB, NPB) [1758, 1760, 1761, 1763B, 1765, 1767, 1768, 1778, 1790, 1795, 1812, 1816, 1817, 1822, 1824, 1873, 2005, 2011 Cambridge, CCR, CSTE, DKJB, 2011 Transetto Text, 2011 Clarion] {1614, 1617, 1626, 1630, 1631, 1640, 1650, 1753, 1768, 1795, 1853, 1877, 1879, 1976 London} (1766, 1769, 1787, 1789, 1791, 1793, 1810, 1820, 1827, 1842, 1858 Edinburgh) (1866 Glasgow) (1700 MP) (1770 Dodd) (1774 Bristol) (1776 Birmingham) (1776 Pasham) (1784 Piguenit) (1791, 1816 Collins) (1791 Thomas) (1801 Hopkins) (1803 Etheridge) (1804 Blomfield) (1807 Johnson) (1809, 1810, 1818, 1828 Boston) (1810 Baxter) (1810 Woodward) (1813, 1815 Carey) (1814 Cummings) (1814, 1835 Scott) (1815 Walpole) (1816, 1836 Hartford) (1817, 1824, 1826 Bagster) (1817 Clarke) (1818 Holbrook) (1821, 1831 Brown) (1827 Smith) (1839 Jenks) (1840 Roby) (1841 Thomas) (1843, 1856 AFBS) (1854, 1876 Harding) (1859 RTS) (1876 Porter) (1910 Collins) (1911 TCE) (1923 NIB) (1924 Hertel) (1947 SP) (1948 WSE) (CB) (1959 Little) (1966 SC) (1970, 1976, 2002 TN) (1972 NMRB) (1973, 1976, 1990 REG) (GPB) (1975, 1985 Open) (1976 OGH) (1976 TBR) (RRB) (CHSB) (RSB) (WMCRB) (1984, 1994, 2000, 2002, 2010 ZOND) (1984 AMG) (1985 VB) (1987, 1988 IBS) (1987 PSI) (1988, 2007 TCRB) (1989, 1991, 1998, 2004 World) (1991, 2012 FWP) (1979-2, 1996, 1998, 2000, 2010, 2013 Holman) (1996 ELKJV) (1997 NPC) (1990’s LCBP) (2000 Rainbow) (JVIPB) (Life) (LPB) (TPB) (HPB) (2005 ICC) (2006 PENG) (2006 PP) (KJVCB) (2007 SFCB) (2008 GID) (2008, 2012 ROASB) (2007, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2011p HEND) (2008 Pilot) (NHPB) (2009 Ruckman) (2010, 2015 Baker) (2010 BRO) (ASB) (2011 AMP) (2011, 2012, 2015, 2016 Barbour) (APB) (2011 KJVDB) (2011 PJB) (2011 WB) (TBS-WT) (HMSB) (2012 F-S) (2012 Biblica) (2012 WSB) (2013 CC) (2013 HMB) (2013, 2014 TGS) (2014 RHKJVSB) (2014 TSB) (2015 KJVFSB) (2015 KAPPA) (2017 KWSB) (1842 Bernard) (1851 Cone)

 

[Logos1560]

Joel 2:28 [see Acts 2:17] [my Spirit--1560 Geneva] [My Spirit--NKJV]

My SPIRIT (2009 Strand)

my Spirit (1770, 1771, 1773, 1778, 1783 Oxford) [1648, 1760, 1765, 1767, 1783, 1790, 1795, 1812, 1816, 1817, 1824, 2011 Cambridge] {1611, 1613, 1614, 1616, 1617, 1626, 1640, 1655, 1853, 1879 London} (1637, 1787, 1791, 1793, 1827, 1842, 1843, 1858 Edinburgh) (1860, 1866 Glasgow) (1784 Piguenit) (1791 Thomas) (1803 Etheridge) (1804 Blomfield) (1807 Johnson) (1809 Boston) (1810 Woodward) (1816 Albany) (1816 Collins) (1818 Holbrook) (1818, 1819, 1827, 1829, 1843, 1851, 1853, 1855, 1858, 1868, 1888, 1894, 1954, 1956, 1957, 1963, 1968, 1970, 1971, 1984, 1988, 2004, 2008 ABS) (1821, 1831 Brown) (1827 Smith) (1826 Clarke) (1828 MH) (1832 PSE) (1832, 1835 Scott) (1835 Towar) (1836 Stebbing) (1840 Roby) (1841 Thomas) (1843 AFBS) (1845, 1854, 1857, 1876 Harding) (1846 Portland) (1848 Hartford) (1876 Porter) (1910 Collins) (1924 Hertel) (1948 WSE) (WMCRB) (1984 AMG) (2002, 2010 KJVER) (2006 PENG) (1842 Bernard)

my spirit (1769 Oxford, SRB) [1743, 1769 Cambridge, DKJB]

 

[rlvaughn]

Is the rendering in the claimed "Pure Cambridge edition" at 1 Chronicles 2:55 more consistent, better, accurate, faithful to the preserved Scriptures in the original languages than all other KJV editions?...

Perhaps it is more internally consistent, but not necessarily better or more accurate. The obsession with spelling consistency seems to be fairly recent. English spellings have been quite fluid across the years. Even today, English (England) and American spellings often reflect minor differences.

...Does he in effect imply that the many KJV editions that differ from the one he advocates have impurities in the places where they differ?...

That seems to be exactly what he is implying. Calling one's own edition "pure" implies that everyone else's editions are "impure." If one had the time and inclination to read his writings, one might find he does more than just imply it.

 

[rsr]

There are many odd branches to the KJVO family tree. There are several churches that claim to reprint only the "pure" edition. There are some who claim that any edition that has Savior instead of Saviour is bogus (on a point of biblical numerology), and a church has printed a Spanish version translated from the KJV instead of from the original languages, the Jaime Rey version.

 

[rlvaughn]

There are many odd branches to the KJVO family tree. There are several churches that claim to reprint only the "pure" edition. There are some who claim that any edition that has Savior instead of Saviour is bogus (on a point of biblical numerology)...

I guess odd is ultimately in the eye of the beholder. Many think I'm an odd duck. But, yes, it becomes really fractured when various members of the King James Only community are each clamoring for their own pure KJV Bible and not another. A year or so ago I ran across a person named or aka Nic Kizziah who was warning Believers to Beware of Counterfeit King James Bibles. Part of his MO was to trash the "six-letter Savior." For my trouble of pointing out some of his errors I was accused of working for one of the big publishing companies.

...and a church has printed a Spanish version translated from the KJV instead of from the original languages, the Jaime Rey version.

The concept doesn't surprise me, but the name sounds like a joke. Are you for real?

 

[rsr]

No kidding. I did research maybe 10 years ago and there's not a lot left on the Web, but Doug Kutilek did considerable research that's still around.

 

[Logos1560]

a church has printed a Spanish version translated from the KJV instead of from the original languages, the Jaime Rey version.

That Spanish translation of the KJV was only of the New Testament. I have a facsimile/photocopy reprint of it.

This translation was made by Bernard McVey, who is said to have been a Baptist missionary to Central America, and only 1000 copies of it were said to have been originally printed by Pilgrim Baptist Church in Abingdon, Virginia. The reprint that I have was made by Breaker's Publications www.rrb3.com

 

[Logos1560]

One place where Cambridge and other KJV editions differ is at Exodus 23:23.

Exodus 23:23 [see also Deut. 20:17, Josh. 24:11]

and the Hivite {1660 London}

and the Hivites (1675 Oxford, 2003 NPB) [1629, 1635, 1637, 1648 Cambridge, 2011 Clarion] {1616, 1634, 1648, 1672, 1684, 1795 London} (1638 Edinburgh) (1645 Dutch) (1810, 1813, 1818 Boston) (1810 Woodward) (1843 AFBS) (DSB) (2002, 2010 KJVER) (2001, 2002, 2003, 2011, 2012, 2015, 2016 Barbour) (2003 IGC) (KJVJB) (2008, 2012 ROASB) (2010 BRO) (HKJVSB) (NCE) (2014 HKJVSBps) [NKJV]

and the Hivites (1679, 1681, 1709, 1715, 1720, 1722, 1728, 1729, 1737, 1747, 1753, 1754, 1758, 1760, 1762, 1765, 1768, 1771, 1772, 1773, 1774, 1776, 1777, 1778, 1783 Oxford) [1638, 1683, 1743, 1747, 1756, 1760, 1761, 1762, 1763B, 1765, 1767, 1768, 1769, 1837, 1842, 1844, 1865, 1872, 1887 Cambridge, 1953 PM, 1972, 2011 Cameo, 2011 PMR] {1689, 1703, 1705, 1706, 1711, 1712, 1723, 1728, 1730, 1735, 1741, 1743, 1747, 1750, 1759, 1760, 1763, 1764, 1767, 1768, 1772 London} (1755 Oxon) (1714, 1715, 1716, 1722, 1729, 1751, 1756, 1760, 1764, 1766, 1769, 1787 Edinburgh) (1741, 1743, 1762, 1801 Dublin) (1696, 1700 MP) (1746 Leipzig) (1774 Bristol) (1774, 1777 Fortescu) (1776 Birmingham) (1776 Pasham) (1777 Wood) (1784 Piguenit) (1782 Aitken) (1790, 1808 MH) (1791 Collins) (1791, 1841 Thomas) (1801 Hopkins) (1803 Etheridge) (1807, 1813 Johnson) (1809, 1826, 1828 Boston) (1814 Woodward) (1815 Walpole) (1818, 1819, 1827, 1829, 1831, 1838, 1843, 1851 ABS) (1832 Wilbur) (1836, 1848 Hartford) (1843 Robinson) (1846 Portland) (1845, 1876 Harding) (1857 More) (1924, 1958 Hertel) (1952 Judson) (1956, 1957, 1958, 1975, 1999 Collins) (VFC) (2009 Strand) (2010 LCBP) (1833 WEB) (1842 Bernard)

and Hivites (KJRLB) (1979-1, 1996 Holman) (MSB)

the Hivites (1769 Oxford, SRB, 1996 SSB, Oxford Classic) [1773, 1778, 1783, 1790, 1792, 1794, 1795, 1800, 1817, 1822, 1823, 1824, 1833, 1869, 1873, 2005, 2011 Cambridge, CCR, CSTE, DKJB, 2011 Transetto Text] {1611, 1613, 1614, 1617, 1657, 1698, 1813, 1814, 1816, 1817, 1820, 1824, 1825, 1827, 1831, 1838, 1839, 1843, 1849, 1860, 1877, 1879, 1880, 1976 London} (1789, 1791, 1793, 1810, 1820, 1842, 1843, 1851 Edinburgh) (1866 Glasgow)

 

[Logos1560]

Here is a list of some places were a Pitt Minion Cambridge edition of the KJV may differ from a Concord Cambridge edition of the KJV. I saw at least one Pitt Minion Cambridge KJV edition that seemed to follow the Concord Cambridge edition text so all Pitt Minion editions may not have these differences.

Exodus 23:23

2 Samuel 15:12 counseller-----------counsellor

1 Chronicles 2:55 Hammath-----Hemath

1 Chronicles 13:5 Hamath----Hemath

Ezra 7:14 counsellers-----counsellors

Amos 6:14 Hamath------Hemath

Acts 3:7 ancle--------ankle

Acts 11:12 spirit-----Spirit

Acts 11:28 spirit------Spirit

Acts 19:39 inquire-----enquire

Rom. 11:34 counseller---------counsellor

1 Pet. 1:10 enquired-------inquired

 

[rlvaughn]

No kidding. I did research maybe 10 years ago and there's not a lot left on the Web, but Doug Kutilek did considerable research that's still around.

That Spanish translation of the KJV was only of the New Testament. I have a facsimile/photocopy reprint of it.

Do you have the actual title of this Bible? I got the impression from what I found last night of Kutilek's writing that Jaime Rey or Rey Jaime was his nickname for it.

 

[robycop3]

In the thread The Bible at your fingertips, the subject of the Pure Cambridge Edition Bible came up. For example: I had never heard of this, so did a little searching. According to one site supportive of the King James Version Bible, the Pure Cambridge Edition is “an out-of-print Cambridge text [circa 1900], determined to be ‘pure’ by Mr. Verschuur, a young and ambitious Pentecostal man from Australia.” They commend his research as “fairly exhaustive” but go on to say that his conclusions that the Cambridge text he uses is superior to other Cambridge texts cannot be defended, and that when he can’t defend his points, “he relies on his ‘Pentecostal’ experiences to defend them.” They say this “Pentecostal defense” is found in his book, Guide to the Pure Cambridge Edition of the King James Bible.

Matthew Verschuur has a website called Bible Protector where he promotes the Pure Cambridge Bible. This site links to Victory Faith Centre in South Geelong, Victoria, Australia – so I am assuming that is his church.

Matthew Verschuur’s “Statement to all King James Bible (KJB) supporters concerning the Pure Cambridge Edition (PCE)” can be found HERE. Thought I'd relay what I found. Some of you are probably quite familiar with this edition and claim, but others of you were probably like me, in the dark.

Matthew is a rabid KJVO who's often meen proven wrong by myself & others on other sites. He calls himself "Bibleprotector".

He's also an aspiring author who hopes someone will publish his KJVO and "PCE" garbage.

BTW, I have a Cambridge Edition KJV, & it has the same goofs & booboos found in other KJV editions.

 

[Logos1560]

Do you have the actual title of this Bible?

According to the reprint, on the original title page the following is stated:

El Nuevo Testament de Nuestro Senor Y Salvador Jesu Christo
Biblica Autorizada Del Rey Jaime 1611

The reprint's has an additional title page before this one and it is as follows:

El Nuevo Testamento De McVey

Un facsimile del Nuevo Testamento hizo por Bernard McVey

Lo que el llamo
La Biblia Autorizada
traducida directamenta de la Rey Jaime en Ingles

 

[rlvaughn]

According to the reprint, on the original title page the following is stated...

Thanks! When I was searching for Jaime Rey Tuesday night, I could have sworn that I got one hit with something like “autorizada del rey Jacobo.” I did not look at it at the time and have not found it since (i.e., when searching for “Jaime Rey;” I can find it by searching for those words). Anyway, I was curious if “Jacobo” was anywhere in the title or on the title page of McVey’s book. Apparently not. Thanks again.