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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by agedman, Dec 27, 2019.

  1. agedman

    agedman Well-Known Member
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    Foundational to any presentation asking such a question as, “What is the gospel” compels the need for defining the term “gospel.”

    In the simplest form, gospel means - “good news.”

    (Imo) one of the better writings on this is found here: What Is the Gospel?

    WAYS in which the gospel is used may include soteriology or eschatology, but ultimately the gospel is the delivery of good news.

    Teaching on the Scripture done properly is always bringing good news.

    Living as a believer is always good news.

    Passing from this estate into eternity is good news.

    The Angels recognize good news when a sinner repents.

    The hosts of heaven see the good news when the lamb took the rolled up scroll.

    The lost who are given ears to hear good news become believers.

    What is the gospel is necessary to know, but more important rejoicing happens with good news.
     
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    I Cor 15:1-6?
     
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    The gospel is the “good news” of the death, burial and resurrection of Christ (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) and is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that believes. (Romans 1:16) To believe the gospel is to trust in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation.
     
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    Such is, in part, correct.

    However, that is not the only good news that is to be delivered.

    Did not the angels bring good news to the shepherds?

    What of this good news?
    6Then I saw another angel flying directly overhead, with an eternal gospel to proclaim to those who dwell on earth, to every nation and tribe and language and people. 7And he said with a loud voice, “Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of his judgment has come, and worship him who made heaven and earth, the sea and the springs of water.”
    Some limit the gospel to a certain set of facts concerning particularly the crucifixion.

    But the gospel, the good news is far richer than that theme.


    It includes judgment, kingdom, worship, glory, ...
     
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    Those things are obviously implied. I quoted Paul as to the Gospel proper
     
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    Yet another and needless overly repetitive thread on this subject. The gospel is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ the Messiah. Many things can be called good news. The gospel is always understood to be narrow and specific. The reference to it in scripture is always related to the Messiah. Taking it beyond that is inappropriate.
     
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    You quoted Paul stating events. That those events and the delivery of those events as news was good news.

    However, the good news is not limited to those events.

    Good news is the meaning. It encompasses all matters concerning God and the creation.

    Judgment is good news.

    Worship is good news.

    ...
     
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    I have shown two places in which the gospel was brought that did not pertain to your view.
     
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    Please post the exact verses
     
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    Great post!

    I notice Protestants tend to reduce "the Gospel" to a series of one-liners. Most of the time their "Gospel" includes the Protestant doctrine of sola fide, which is insinuated in post #3 above.

    While the death and resurrection is certainly part of the Gospel, it is not the Gospel message in its entirety. We know this because St. Paul would call other tenets of the faith "the Gospel." For example, he calls the last judgement of man by Christ "the Gospel" in Romans 2:16.

    The Gospel is inseparable from the narrative in which it is presented, culminating in God fulfilling His promise to redeem man in the Person of Jesus Christ. I think what most people really prefer is a truncated Gospel, one removed from its historical narrative and whereby one can pick and choose one-liners, ridding themselves of the things they don't like, and keeping the things they do like.
     
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    There is no peace for the wicked says God.
    Good news of the gospel is justified men can enter heaven to live with God.
    No one went to heaven after they died until Christ ascended and led the captivity captive.

    Christ came to give men eternal everlasting life, and before Christ came there was Abraham's bosom for the old testament saints who died in faith, but still they did not inherit the promise, versus the fiery torments of hell fire for the wicked dead who were faithless profane mankind, And Abraham's bosom would have been paradise for them who were there, but it was not Heaven or the the throne of God or eternal life being Sheol the place of the dead.

    39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:
    40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.

    v40 is speaking about the good news of the gospel, where you do receive the promise of eternal life in heaven with God. The OT saints were perfected along with us as the NT saints because of the gospel of Christ.
     
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    I cited the narrative of Luke 2 and Revelation 14.

    The Scriptures present three themes.

    He is coming, He is here, and He is coming again.

    All three are incorporated into the gospel (good news).

    The crucifixion is one portion (important key aspect) of the gospel.
     
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    So no scripture for each of your points? Why not?
     
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    Mark 1:1 has this to say about the gospel:

    "The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God."

    Mark is indicating that everything that is to follow in his "gospel" is in fact the gospel of Jesus Christ.

    @agedman , let me ask you a very important question. What @mailmandan said in post #3 is not incorrect. Those things are the gospel. The question is whether anything else is considered the gospel. With the word "gospel" being used 70 times in the New Testament the question is a good one. So, here is my question. What part(s) of the gospel do you think a person needs to believe in order to become a Christian?
     
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    Amen!
    The Gospel is about the Good News of the promise of God being fulfilled in the Son, as revealed in the scriptures, which brings hope of salvation to all mankind. Yes, the power of God unto salvation to everyone that believes! Peace, joy, hope on Earth! Merry Christmas!! Of course, “some” soteriological persuasions it would seem more like “Bad News” because of their insistence that the scriptures reveal that God predetermined most of mankind not to have the ability to respond to that promise and the others (the lucky pre-selected few) would have to be forced into accepting it against their will as if nobody could understand this message or love this truth otherwise.
     
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    Agedman,
    this is another needful thread and a very good topic which barely got explored before before it was shut down and opposed.
    You're making many good points there are several portions of scripture that speak of the Gospel there are several portions that speak of the good news and each one needs to be developed and explored.
     
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    To boil it down to its simplest answer, what information do you need to be saved? That is the Gospel. No need to complicate it past that. One needs not know a single point of Calvinism or Arminianism to be saved.
     
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    Good news goes beyond the theme of salvation.
     
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    Reynolds,
    The thread asks....what is the gospel?
    What do you communicate to someone who has not heard it?
     
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    Are you placing the Gospel in a narrowness?

    Good news (gospel) encompasses more than soteriology.

    Rather then attend to “the parts,” why not acknowledge the wonder of all news the Scripture presents is the gospel - good news?

    Luke 2 is an example of the angels giving the good news.

    Rev. 14 is an another example of angels delivering the good news.

    Paul certainly presented more than soteriology as good news to the assemblies.


    The gospel excludes no part of the Scriptures.

    Yet, does not your post would suggest it does?

    Does not your post desire to dissect the good news into parts and pieces?
     
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