Featured Aspects of the Atonement

jonC seems to be denying that Adam spiritually died, so that would skew his view of the Atonement, and brings into Question if Jesus was born like us, or needed the Virgin Birth to bypass sin nature!

 

Jesus had to die in order to provide propiatation for the wrath and judgment of God towards sinners...

 

yes, for our sake, as he became the Sin bearer while upon that Cross! That was the Cup of wrath he asked the Father to withdraw from Him while in the Garden!

 

@Reformed,
thank you for your helpful posts. Perhaps I may add a couple of additional comments:
In answer to @agedman's point, God's wrath is intimately bound up with His justice (Psalms 7:11). I think that a most important point concerning the Atonement is God's justice. How can God be 'just, and the justifier of the one who believes in Jesus'? How can he be faithful and just to forgive us our sins'? How can He pardon the wicked?
Exodus 34:6-7. “The LORD, the LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abounding with goodness and truth, keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, by no means clearing the guilty.” Immediately the question arises, how can God be merciful and gracious, how can He forgive iniquity, transgression and sin without clearing the guilty? How can He clear the guilty if He abounds with truth—if He is a ‘just Judge’ (Psalm 7:11)? How can it be said that, ‘Mercy and truth have met together; righteousness and peace have kissed’ unless God can simultaneously punish sin and forgive sinners? The answer is that ‘God……devises means, so that His banished ones are not expelled from Him’ (2 Samuel 14:14). Those means are Penal Substitution. “Learn ye, my friends, to look upon God as being as severe in His justice as if He were not loving, and yet as loving as if He were not severe. His love does not diminish His justice nor does His justice, in the least degree, make warfare upon His love. The two are sweetly linked together in the atonement of Christ” (C.H. Spurgeon).
Unless our Lord Himself, in the Person of Christ, has taken my sins upon Himself and paid the full penalty for them, God cannot acquit me. 'By no means clearing the guilty.'

The other point concerns our Union with Christ. What He has done, I have done; what He has suffered, I have suffered; where He has gone, I have gone in Him.
'I have been crucified with Christ' (Galatians 2:20).
'But God......even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ......and raised us up together, and made us sit in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus' (Ephesians 2:4-6).
'For our citizenship is in heaven' (Philippians 3:20).
'If then you were raised with Christ........... For you died and your life is hid with Christ in God' (Colossians 3:1-3).

So in the light of such texts it is not surprising that the Lord Jesus announces, '.....Whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?' (John 11:26). So in the mind of God, which is all that matters, we have already suffered the penalty for sin and the curse of Deuteronomy 21:23; we have been raised from the dead, we are ascended into heaven and our lives are hidden with Christ in God and therefore we shall never die because we already have done so.

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We do not face the judgment for our sins, and do not experience enteral seperation from the Father...

 

Without the penal Substitution atonement view, still have a hard time seeing just how my sins have been paid and atoned for, and why wrath of God towards me was somehow averted?

 

Calvinism argues from the very scriptures themselves though for its theology, and how can one even hold to penal Substitution apart from a Judicial law aspect?

 

No, Jesus die not die a spiritual death, for that would be WoF heresy, but his physical death was the propiation towards providing the means by which the Wrath of God was satisfied!

 

yes there is, as he had to be the sacrificial lamb of Isaiah 53, and he had to take upon and in His own body while hanging on that cross my sins and the wrath of god for those sins!

 

All who sin must spiritual and physically die!

 

Jesus died a physical, but not a spiritual death on His Cross, and yes, we are all born as sinners, under the judgment of God already!