Faulty theology pt 2

[Reformed1689]

I don't know (that is what I need to consider).

For the record, I do not believe it does. The closes contention being Hebrews 4:12

 

[Yeshua1]

This is why MB is supporting JonC. Both are taking a position that Baptists do not take.

Neither reformed for that matter!

 

[Reformed1689]

Neither reformed for that matter!

That should be the argument here. This is not a Reformed Baptist board. Not everyone here falls into the Reformed camp so that should not be the basis of orthodoxy.

 

[Yeshua1]

That should be the argument here. This is not a Reformed Baptist board. Not everyone here falls into the Reformed camp so that should not be the basis of orthodoxy.

Its not my basis, just saying that the view expressed by both JonC and MB are held by neither Reformed or Baptists!

 

[JonC]

For the record, I do not believe it does. The closes contention being Hebrews 4:12

I think you may be right here.

You know I take a long time changing my mind, so this may take awhile. But it may point to that distinction in Corinthians aboyr Adam being made a "living soul" and Christ a "life giving Spirit".

 

[Yeshua1]

I think you may be right here.

You know I take a long time changing my mind, so this may take awhile. But it may point to that distinction in Corinthians aboyr Adam being made a "living soul" and Christ a "life giving Spirit".

Think soul and spirit same thing!

 

[JonC]

Seems an awful lot like that theology held by our friend MB!

You do realize that was God, not JonC, correct?

What you and @AustinC find so theologically flawed is actually a passage in 1 Corinthians.

I just did not state the verses.

I did not add to it.

That was Paul you denounce, so @MB and I are in good company. .

 

[Yeshua1]

You do realize that was God, not JonC, correct?

What you and @AustinC find so theologically flawed is actually a passage in 1 Corinthians.

I just did not state the verses.

I did not add to it.

That was Paul you denounce, so @MB and I are in good company. .

We do not accept your flawed understanding of the passage, but do accept it as inspired scripture!

 

[JonC]

We do not accept your flawed understanding of the passage, but do accept it as inspired scripture!

You do not understand.

That was not my understanding of Scripture. I never told you my understanding of it.

That was actually Scripture you are ridiculing, not my words and not my understanding.

@AustinC went through the passage piece by piece rejecting it but he did not realize he was rejecting Scripture. Now he is mad at me for not letting him know beforehand those were Paul's words.

 

[Yeshua1]

You do not understand.

That was not my understanding of Scripture. I never told you my understanding of it.

That was actually Scripture you are ridiculing, not my words and not my understanding.

Of course we would agree with Paul, but you are not is my point!

 

[JonC]

Of course we would agree with Paul, but you are not is my point!

You do not know. All I did was post a passage without saying it was Scripture and the two of you found it theologically flawed and false.

You rejected Scripture - not me. I never offered my two cents, just put Paul's words out there.

 

[Yeshua1]

You do not know. All I did was post a passage without saying it was Scripture and the two of you found it theologically flawed and false.

You rejected Scripture - not me. I never offered my two cents, just put Paul's words out there.

You quoted Paul entire passage on the spiritual body with your comments, eh?

 

[MB]

This is why MB is supporting JonC. Both are taking a position that Baptists do not take.

Non sense Not all Baptist are Calvinist. Calvinist came in the back door. I was hoping you'd shut up because you haven't anything of value to the conversation. All you do is nag.
MB

 

[JonC]

You quoted Paul entire passage on the spiritual body with your comments, eh?

Yes. All Paul. None me. And @AustinC went down point by point rejecting the passage.

The first man, Adam, became a living soul. The last Adam became a life giving Spirit. But the natural, not the spiritual, is first - then the spiritual. The first man is from the earth. The second man is from heaven.

There are some massive theological flaws in the above statement.

The first Adam was created and made in the image of God, which means he was created with a spirit.

The last Adam is God coming in humanity.

Both have a spirit. The first Adam's spirit was corrupted by sin. The second Adam's spirit is holy, as God is holy.

You're proposition is false.

Moreso, your theology is not Baptist theology. Your position should be shared in the other denominations forum.

Point, @Yeshua1, is you are denouncing Scripture itself, not my words.

It is post #7.

 

[Yeshua1]

Yes. All Paul. None me. And @AustinC went down point by point rejecting the passage.




Point, @Yeshua1, is you are denouncing Scripture itself, not my words.

It is post #7.

Again, we are denouncing your reasoning of what paul meant, not what paul recorded down!

 

[JonC]

Again, we are denouncing your reasoning of what paul meant, not what paul recorded down!

I gave none read post 7

You are denouncing SCRIPTURE.

 

[Yeshua1]

I gave none read post 7

You are denouncing SCRIPTURE.

We are speaking against those posts here when you gave scripture and also your understanding of them !

 

[JonC]

We are speaking against those posts here when you gave scripture and also your understanding of them !

This is not true.

Again, the issue and proff is post 7

You two accused Paul (not me) of "some massive theological flaws in the above statement" as the statement was quoted Scripture.

You accuse Paul of denying "the first Adam was created and made in the image of God, which means he was created with a spirit".

You accuse Paul of denying "the last Adam is God coming in humanity."

You determined that Paul's "proposition is false."

 

[Yeshua1]

Non sense Not all Baptist are Calvinist. Calvinist came in the back door. I was hoping you'd shut up because you haven't anything of value to the conversation. All you do is nag.
MB

And you keep pushing what has been defined as heresy by Reformed and Baptist alike!

 

[Yeshua1]

This is not true.

Again, the issue and proff is post 7

You two accused Paul (not me) of "some massive theological flaws in the above statement" as the statement was quoted Scripture.

You accuse Paul of denying "the first Adam was created and made in the image of God, which means he was created with a spirit".

You accuse Paul of denying "the last Adam is God coming in humanity."

You determined that Paul's "proposition is false."

See# 17/#24!