Herd Immunity Insanity!

[Benjamin]

WHO questions UK's approach to 'herd immunity' amid coronavirus fight | Daily Mail Online

"The World Health Organisation has laid into the Government's coronavirus plans for a second time, slamming the approach to allow UK citizens to develop 'herd immunity' against the potentially deadly infection.

Yesterday, the body's director general had said every country should find and test every possible case and warned not to 'just let this fire burn'.

Boris Johnson and his team of scientific advisers revealed on Thursday that the aim of the Government's approach is to slow the progress of the virus as it sweeps through the population, rather than following other countries in immediately shutting schools or banning public gatherings.

But chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance said around 60 per cent of the population - 40 million people - will need to catch the virus to build up a national tolerance strong enough to stop the virus circulating."

 

[Benjamin]

God help us if the world starts buying into the strong will survive while this serious threat to our most vulnerable, the elderly is ignored. This kind of approach is equal to a autoimmune disease, cancer patient, immune deficiency and elderly mass abortion!!

 

[Revmitchell]

The Surgeon General thinks otherwise

 

[Benjamin]

The Surgeon General thinks otherwise

Who's surgeon general? What are you suggesting/?!

 

[Benjamin]

This is an extremely dangerous approach and I dare say wouldn't be considered IF the death rate were evenly spread regardless of age or condition.

This graph promotes herd immunity to avoid a second peak. But such :"logic" neglects the dangerous reality of the likely possibility of a very high first peak and the goal to strictly limit the first peak and have a vaccination before there is a second peak. Pure insanity!!

 

[Benjamin]

There is no denying that it is the elderly that are at great risk. Likely 15%+ will die if exposed. One best care about this:

Psa 71:9 Cast me not off in the time of old age; forsake me not when my strength faileth.

1Ti 5:17 Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine.

Job 12:12 With the ancient is wisdom; and in length of days understanding.

1Pe 5:5 Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble.

Psa 92:14 They shall still bring forth fruit in old age; they shall be fat and flourishing;

Php 2:4 Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others.

Pro 17:5 Whoso mocketh the poor reproacheth his Maker: and he that is glad at calamities shall not be unpunished.

 

[Revmitchell]

Its not just the elderly it is anyone at any age who is immune deficient. On the other hand everyone one else had only the risk of becoming ill with symptoms inferior to the common flu.

All the hub bub over this is overreaction, needless and a result of the fear mongering of the lefties.

 

[Benjamin]

All the hub bub over this is overreaction, needless and a result of the fear mongering of the lefties.

You seriously need to get over your political biases and face the reality of the possibility of what this disease is capable of with a clear mind while you prayerfully consider your fellow man. Your suggested motive has NOTHING to do with most people's reasoning to be very cautious with this very deadly disease to protect the vulnerable.

 

[Revmitchell]

You seriously need to get over your political biases and face the reality of the possibility of what this disease is capable of with a clear mind while you prayerfully consider your fellow man. Your suggested motive has NOTHING to do with most people's reasoning to be very cautious with this very deadly disease to protect the vulnerable.

I dont need to get over anything. I see it happening right before my eyes. Your spooky nature doesnt make a case.

 

[Benjamin]

I dont need to get over anything. I see it happening right before my eyes. Your spooky nature doesnt make a case.

Facts and reasoning make my case:

Benjamin's Case: I was reading last night the 1918 Spanish flu had a 3% death rate. The COVID-19 is currently averaging a 7.4% death rate in Italy. The ONLY reason this disease could be considered "less deadly" than the flu is that so far this highly contagious virus has been kept from spreading through people taking it very seriously and not blowing it off as just another flu. Further, if it were to spread, and it is also more contagious than the 1918 Spanish flu and it could be 2 1/2 times as "deadly". The death rate in nursing homes could be 15%+ for our dearly loved elderly. It’s time to stop comparing this to the flu and telling others to poofoo it off.

Your case appears to be built on your spooky political biases and one-liners on a message board...

 

[Revmitchell]

Facts and reasoning make my case:

Benjamin's Case: I was reading last night the 1918 Spanish flu had a 3% death rate. The COVID-19 is currently averaging a 7.4% death rate in Italy. The ONLY reason this disease could be considered "less deadly" than the flu is that so far this highly contagious virus has been kept from spreading through people taking it very seriously and not blowing it off as just another flu. Further, if it were to spread, and it is also more contagious than the 1918 Spanish flu and it could be 2 1/2 times as "deadly". The death rate in nursing homes could be 15%+ for our dearly loved elderly. It’s time to stop comparing this to the flu and telling others to poofoo it off.

Your case appears to be built on your spooky political biases and one-liners on a message board...

One liners. Good grief. Cant take you serious.

 

[AustinC]

God help us if the world starts buying into the strong will survive while this serious threat to our most vulnerable, the elderly is ignored. This kind of approach is equal to a autoimmune disease, cancer patient, immune deficiency and elderly mass abortion!!

Do you think we (society) are purposely trying to infect the elderly?

 

[Benjamin]

Do you think we (society) are purposely trying to infect the elderly?

I wouldn’t put it past some with the Globalist mindset to see it as an opportunity for some population control. Look at what they are willing to do to the unborn while they use the excuse to argue who is going to take care of these unwanted children.

It has been suggested that Italy's social medicine bureaucrats due to the shortage of hospital beds have denied the elderly hospital bed in favor of more productive people.

"purposely trying to infect" - I taught my children if they have been warned of something and then it happens because of their neglect that it isn't an accident - it is being irresponsible and that carries with it fault.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

It has been suggested that Italy's social medicine bureaucrats due to the shortage of hospital beds have denied the elderly hospital bed in favor of more productive people.

"purposely trying to infect" - I taught my children if they have been warned of something and then it happens because of their neglect that it isn't an accident - it is being irresponsible and that carries with it fault.

This was mentioned in a link in another thread. Their outbreak was in the most affluent and advanced part of the country. What was alarming was the reaction by those in the initial quarantine area. A newspaper leak evidently alerted people, who then fled the region by the tens of of thousands. Now there's your herd mentality at work.

Italian doctors on coronavirus frontline face tough calls on whom to save

 

[Benjamin]

Their outbreak was in the most affluent and advanced part of the country. What was alarming was the reaction by those in the initial quarantine area.

Yeah, Italy is a few weeks ahead of us. Ask yourself what stage we are at. Check out this video giving first hand accounts and note how quickly things really got serious with this "just another flu" epidemic.

 

[AustinC]

I wouldn’t put it past some with the Globalist mindset to see it as an opportunity for some population control. Look at what they are willing to do to the unborn while they use the excuse to argue who is going to take care of these unwanted children.

It has been suggested that Italy's social medicine bureaucrats due to the shortage of hospital beds have denied the elderly hospital bed in favor of more productive people.

"purposely trying to infect" - I taught my children if they have been warned of something and then it happens because of their neglect that it isn't an accident - it is being irresponsible and that carries with it fault.

Are you believing in a conspiracy theory?

 

[Marooncat79]

Its been in the US for 3-4 months at least

There are various agendas from the Left, Media, HHS etc.

This too shall pass

 

[Benjamin]

Are you believing in a conspiracy theory?

Are you believing in logic and facts?

 

[Benjamin]

Its been in the US for 3-4 months at least

There are various agendas from the Left, Media, HHS etc.

This too shall pass

The scientist know where and when it originated. You pass faulty information that if believed could be harmful to the truth and in your political bias are hypocritical as h...

 

[Marooncat79]

The scientist know where and when it originated. You pass faulty information that if believed could be harmful to the truth and in your political bias are hypocritical as h...

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