Featured SDA: Cult of Fear-Mongers

Are you saying Jesus Christ did not know the saved condition of Adam, Eve, Abel, Enoch, Noah, Moses, Elijah (who was taken up to Heaven), or any of those sheep of whom He said, "My sheep hear my voice. I know them and they follow me? (John 10:27).

Also, consider another pertinent verse, "Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his" (2 Timothy 2:19).

Furthermore, by declaring the third automatically condemned, you are assuming Jesus knew infallibly they would not or did not repent. Therefore, they stand condemned upon their death.

But if Jesus knew who, exactly, would not or did not repent, He also knew who would or did repent by the time they died.

The foreknowledge of Christ is not divided, able to foresee only certain things. The Lord knew all who would or would not believe before the creation.

Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world (Acts 15:18).

Mankind is the work of God, as is every individual ever born.

Thus, He had no justifiable or biblical reason to wait until 1844 to determine their saved or unsaved condition. Such anti-biblical reasoning is that of a false prophetess.

Do you not see the untenable position you and your cult hold?

 

You continue to view Scripture through the distorted lens of EGW.
Like Ellen, you and your cult brethren have a misguided view of God's attributes.
It was 1800 years before 1844 that Christ declared He knew His sheep.
Now, if He knew His sheep, He also knew who were not His sheep.
Christ's knowledge is not divided nor limited. He is omniscient.
This basic truth is Christianity 101.
But for those who have been deceived, it is impossible to be objective when facing the truth, unless the sovereign grace of God intervenes. May that be the case for you and Hobie.

 

Our Maori Adventist friend is not answering my biblical responses to the illogical, unbiblical doctrine of the Investigative Judgment due to one of two reasons:
(1) He is currently reviewing Scripture like a good Berean to see if those things be so;
or (2) He is unable to refute the divine logic of Holy Writ and is currently in hiding.

The Adventists ask if it is true the Roman Church banned the Bible.
I ask the Adventists if it is true the Adventist Church banned the truths of the Bible to whose Word they claim to hold.

Here is a partial list of their banned Bible truths:

Absolute Predestination of the Elect to glory before creation
Unconditional Election according to the good pleasure of God, without respect to works
Saving Grace the gift of God to the Elect only
Saving Faith the gift of God to the Elect only
Repentance the gift of God to the Elect only
Atonement effective for the Elect only
Good works are acceptable to God when performed by the Elect only, who were created unto good works in Christ Jesus
Elect cannot lose salvation
Elect know they are saved, not on probation
Elect cannot be deceived by false prophets
Unconditional Immortality of the Soul
Eternal damnation of both body and soul of the Reprobate
God knew who would believe before creation because they, and they alone, were decreed to be the recipients of saving grace
God loved the Elect from eternity
God hated the Reprobate from eternity
The Lamb's Book of Life was written before the foundation of the world
The false doctrines of soul sleep and annihilation give comfort to the Reprobate, for it eliminates the horrendous ineffable pain which Jesus so clearly and unambiguously describes as unending.
OT Sabbath-keeping Law did not win the Jews favor with God anymore than it does Adventists, for without faith it is impossible to please God. The Law is not of faith.

 

Please elaborate what are the 'etc.' as well as what 'IG' signifies.

There are several other issues orthodox Christians have with SDA besides those which I have elaborated.

1. The SDA religion grew out of the Millerite movement, Miller being a false prophet.

2. EGW is also a false prophet who claims the unique favor of God, through alleged visions and revelations made only to her. Yet she has a distorted and anti-biblical view of the Trinity, man, history, and theology.

3. God's Word clearly states, But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence (1 Timothy 2:12). The [alleged] writings of EGW are held as the infallible interpretation of Scripture, whose authority is not to be questioned. Extensive study of her authoritative writings is essential to Adventist discipleship.

By God's sovereign grace, ex-Adventists are exposing the lies and inconsistencies of their once beloved religion.

My posts have refuted several lies by doing basic research which all Christians are called to do when confronting claims made by those who offer no proof but their say-so.

Adventism is a fairy tale religion which, like all pseudo-Christian religions, profess Christ, while at the same time deny Christ.

This is the classic definition of Anti-Christ: One who comes in the name and authority of Christ, while at the same time opposing the truths of Christ.

In modern lingo: Anti-Christ is a frenemy of Christ.

EGW fits the description, as does the Pope of Rome.

Leaving a false religion requires the all-powerful irresistible grace of God.

May that grace be extended to you and your family.

 

Part 14: A Third Adventist Letter From the Dead

Dear Adventist Brothers and Sisters:

I realize though I were to return from the dead, you will not believe what I say. This is due to the Adventist teachings which undermine biblical truth.

I confess I am complicit in teaching fables, falsehood and fiction. As such I am without excuse.

In this letter I must warn you of another falsehood I perpetrated upon the gullible and ignorant. It is the same falsehood as that taught by the highly honored and respected Sabbath-breaker, Rev. Dr. Billy Graham: salvation of the heathen apart from faith in Christ.

In the January 1978 edition of McCall’s Magazine, an article entitled, ‘I Can’t Play God Anymore,’ Graham is quoted as saying, “‘I used to play God,' he acknowledged, 'but I can't do that anymore. I used to believe that pagans in far-off countries were lost - were going to hell - if they did not have the Gospel of Jesus Christ preached to them. I no longer believe that,' he said carefully. 'I believe that there are other ways of recognizing the existence of God - through nature, for instance - and plenty of other opportunities, therefore, of saying 'yes' to God.' "

I confess I, too, taught this God-dishonoring doctrine:

“Among the heathen are those who worship God ignorantly, those to whom the light is never brought by human instrumentality, yet they will not perish. Though ignorant of the written law of God, they have heard His voice speaking to them in nature, and have done the things that the law required. Their works are evidence that the Holy Spirit has touched their hearts, and they are recognized as the children of God" (The Desire of Ages, p. 638).

As to the orthodoxy or heterodoxy of this question, re: salvation apart from faith in Christ, I have had the last 105 years to contemplate the issue from all sides.

On the one side it paints God as the all-loving, compassionate Father to all His creatures.

However, on the other side, it denies the necessity of sending Christ as our Mediator/Redeemer. For if it were possible to be saved apart from Christ, would not the Father be far wiser and most compassionate by avoiding the crucifixion of His Son in the first place? The Gospel message should then include one’s good use of natural revelation as the means and measure of one’s worthiness to be saved. Yet the Bible teaches no such thing.

Upon more than a century of reflection, I realized that even if it were possible for a person to cease committing sin after receiving natural divine enlightenment, (and thereby place faith in the Creator), there still remains the problem of sin committed in the past.

The Bible clearly teaches the impossibility of man making atonement for sin. The Jews were guilty of such errant attempts (Romans 10). The heathens sacrificed to appease the gods (Acts 14). Monks and nuns would flagellate themselves to bring their flesh under subjection, a very feeble attempt at atonement.

Adventists have other ways of making atonement. They have been taught, by me, the necessity of keeping the commandments, as I interpret them, in order to be saved. They also believe by following strict dietary rules they are able to mortify their flesh.

But the Bible teaches the impossibility of man’s living a sinless life by flowing a specific set of rules.

For by the works of the Law shall no flesh be justified (Romans 3:20; Galatians 2:16).

Favor is found with God only by looking to the crucified and risen Christ for acceptance, remission of sins and the power to live a holy life pleasing to the Lord.

Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost (Titus 3:5).

Next time my Adventist brothers and sisters, I hope to expose the shame of Adventism.