Featured Why are there so many even Christians afraid of Judgment Day?

I agree.

However, you are avoiding answering my question.
Please provide the Biblical reference to the judgement day when Christians will be judged and the eternal result of their judgement.

Do you agree with this statement or do you have an alternative belief?
"The judgment seat of Christ does not determine salvation; that was determined by Christ’s sacrifice on our behalf (1 John 2:2) and our faith in Him (John 3:16). All of our sins are forgiven, and we will never be condemned for them (Romans 8:1)."
Excerpt from: What is the Judgment Seat of Christ / Bema Seat of Christ? | GotQuestions.org

 

Because they don't trust the Lord ( Proverbs 3:5-6 ) and value His words.

Believers have been known to use them as well, although not as much.

 

I have no intention of watching the video. If, as you say you have shared the scripture supporting your position concerning the judgement of Christians and I missed it, simply share the post again for me. Thanks for your helpful reply to my request.

 

Hobie,

The way I'm reading his comments, Wesley asked you when Christians...
That's God's dear children who He sent His Son to atone for,
will be judged, and that judgment resulting in eternal consequences for them.

He then asked you:

 

Not every word that God's children speak will be written down to be judged, Hobie.
Only the words of those who are not saved will be written in the books and the spiritually and physically dead will be judged out of those books:

" And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is [the book] of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." ( Revelation 20:11-15 )

God is also a God of the living ( Matthew 22:32, Mark 12:27 ), not the "dead", spiritually speaking.
Christ's sheep ( the living ) have their sins forgiven...
All their trespasses ( Colossians 2:13-14 ).

God will not remember any of those sins on Judgment Day ( Jeremiah 31:31-34, John 3:36, John 5:24, Hebrews 8:12 ).
Those sins are removed from His sight as far as east is from west ( Psalms 103:12 ).

Therefore, true believers, who are part of the first resurrection ( Revelation 20:4-6 ), are set apart on Christ's right hand at that time ( Matthew 25:31-46 ) and are alive to God both spiritually and physically ( Luke 20:38 ), will have nothing to be afraid of at the Judgement.


Their sins will not even be brought up...
There is no condemnation for them that are in Christ Jesus ( Romans 8:1 ).

Only their good works will be remembered;
The good works that they were created in Christ Jesus to do ( Ephesians 2:10 ).

 

Believers don't willfully reject God's words, Hobie...

They "hear" them ( John 8:47 ) because they have "ears to hear" ( Matthew 11:15 ) and because it has been given to them to know the mysteries of the kingdom of Heaven ( Matthew 13:10-11 ).
They have been given the Spirit, so that they might know the things that were given to them by God ( 1 Corinthians 2:6-16 ) and He is their Teacher ( 1 John 2:20-27).

Christ's sheep follow Him ( John 10:27 ), and they will not follow strangers ( John 10:1-5 ).

They also, through the power of the Spirit, do mortify ( or "put to death" ) the deeds of the body ( Romans 8:5-14 ) and they eventually learn to walk in the Spirit, so that they will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh ( Galatians 5:16 ).
They do not willfully continue in sin and they read and heed Romans 6.

So, it is clear to me that since they have their sins forgiven, they have the indwelling Spirit and their hearts have been changed, not only will they continue in the faith, they will triumph over sin and death through Christ Jesus.



May God bless you in your continued studies of His precious word.

 

Hobie, if you don't address my questions in a timely manner, you will be added to my ignore list in such a manner.

 

The awards ceremony for God's children takes place at the Judgement Seat of Christ.

[Rom 14:10 KJV] 10 "... for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ."

Study Guide for Romans 14 by David Guzik
ii. The judgment seat of Christ: “This is the bema seat, equivalent to the judge’s seat in the Olympic Games. After each game, the winners came before the judge’s seat to receive crowns for first, second, and third places. Likewise, the Christian’s works will be tested by fire, and he’ll be rewarded for those which remain... The judgment seat of Christ is only concerned with a Christian’s rewards and position in the kingdom, not with his salvation.” (Smith)

Hopefully we are in agreement.

I appreciate your response.

 

What type of Christians do you meet that say these things ? " yay I want to sin more saved than I did unsaved . Where's the carnival of sin whoop !! Now I'm a child of God , give me some sinning I need to lap it up . Bring me my licence it's legal now whoop ! .' Others say Jesus died on the cross so I can sin " what ? They literally say this? if this is what you hear you miss the point . We are saved by Grace because that's the only way . Your good deeds do not save you . You should be relived that you cannot lose salvation , because if you could you would .

 

Could I ask .How does a person become sealed by the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption? (Ephesians ) Because how your using those proof texts will be affected by how you believe we become a Christian . The bible isn't fighting with itself . If it says nothing can separate us , that we have eternal life , not destined for wrath , predestined to glorification, sealed until we mess up , no it's sealed until the day of redemption. Then we look from the clear passages to the others .

 

There are the ' books ' in heaven . Then there is the ' book ' also . The only factor will be in order to go to heaven will be those that have their names written in the book . The books( plural ) will not determine the destination . Only the ' book ' singular .
12And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Believers will be in the book . Unbelievers will not . That's it simple .

 

Yes, but we cannot forget that now, in the Day of Judgment, the Lord's Day, JESUS will sit on His throne, the Judgment Seat of Christ, but not as an advocate, but as a Judge. Then will fulfil LITERALLY 2Thessalonians 1:v.7-12(whoso readeth, let him understand)

7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,

8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

9 Who shall be PUNISHED with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his Power;

10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that Day. -the Lord's Day, this arrived -

11 Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power:

12 That the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and ye in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Matt.25:v.31-34 and 41and 46
31 When the Son of man shall come in His Glory, and all the holy messengers with Him, then shall He sit upon the throne of His glory: -->the Throne of Judgment, the Judgment Seat of Christ<--

32 And before him shall be gathered all nations (Israel included): and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the Devil and his messengers: ~~> Ministers of Satan - 2Corinthians 11:v.13-15<~~
46 And these shall go away into everlasting PUNISHMENT: but the righteous into LIFE ETERNAL.

 

Christians today are not afraid. They are confused, because false teaching has crept in, which changes the truth of God's Word into a lie. The church is not judged at any of the Judgments in the book of Revelation. After the 6th seal, the church is no longer part of the narrative. They have been judged, and John is only writing about the view of those who are alive after the 6th seal. Those currently dead in sheol stay dead during the rest of the tribulation and remain in sheol for the next 1000 years. Then at the GWT they are judged.

The resurrection in Revelation 20 is only for those killed on earth between the 7th seal, and the battle of Armageddon. This time of tribulation is the harvest and judgment of living humans, not dead humans, nor the church. All those living humans are killed physically. Any prophecy or teachings of Jesus in the Gospels deal with this time and these living humans. They have nothing whatsoever to do with the body of Christ, the church.

The problem is the confusion of when the rapture happens, and this period when Jesus Christ the Lamb once again has a ministry on the earth. This ministry is not about the church. It is about those living on earth after the church is taking out. The church has endured for 1990 years. God says the ministry of the church is over. From Revelation 7, until the New Jerusalem, the church is with God in the temple of God, Paradise. When current reality is dissolved in fire, the temple of God becomes the New Jerusalem, the city of God. That is the dwelling place of all those whose names are in the Lamb's book of life.

Those humans who dwell with Christ and reign on earth, will live on the new earth. They will watch New Jerusalem descend and take a position on the earth. Why this is confusing is inescusable. The church was never the sheep and wheat. Neither were there sheep, goats, wheat, nor tares in the 1st century. All this harvest, that Jesus and the prophets mentioned, only applies to the time on earth after the church is taken out. Scrambling it all up into one messy omelette is confusing. Rightly dividing the Word of God is the key.

 

I think that that statement must be studied more accurately. The Jugment of Christians, or Judgment of the Church as a whole, will be in accord of their works as were exemplified in the chapter 2 and 3 of Revelation, inclusive the angels of the Churches (Pastors, or Bishops, or Evangelists, or Ministers), even they will be Judged now through the Judgment Seat of Christbecause have permitted bad and demonic works (idolatries, prostitutions, adulteries, blasphemy), would occur within the churches in their ministries.

Speaking of idolatry, the commercial manufacture of cross of wooden, iron, silver, gold, bronze, hanging on the walls, or on people's necks, or in tombs, and so on, everything this is idolatry and also a curse. Cross is CURSE. The idolaters put a cross on their neck, that means they are all under the curse, the curse of the cross.

These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass; - And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. Rev. 2:v.19 & 23 and Romans 2:v.16